[Nhcoll-l] [EXTERN] Re: Best practices for ethanol-fixed specimens

Sat Apr 25 05:16:17 EDT 2026

The last sentence of John's message is in fact the exact reason why
specimens preservation in formaldehyde of etnanol (indeed any chemical with
ethyl or -ol) will distort tissue isotopic signals. If wet specimens are to
be used for stable isotope analyses, the better option is usually to
preserve in a reasonably weak solution of the common table salt (sodium
chloride). But even this should work well only if the specimens was
recently acquired in the field (recently dead) - a time frame of days -
because after several weeks, even the salt solution will have fixed and
considerably altered the tissue, and hence the isotopic test signals will
no longer be completely defensible.

Nickson

On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 5:43 PM John E Simmons <simmons.johne at gmail.com>
wrote:

> A correction needs to be made concerning the use of the term
> “pseudo-fixative.”
>
>
>
> Fixation has many meanings, but in general it refers to a chemical or
> physical process that is used to prevent postmortem changes in tissue. From
> a histological point of view, fixation also prepares tissues to be
> receptive to staining, sectioning, or other treatments. There are dozens of
> definitions of fixation in the literature, and dozens of recipes for
> fixatives to produce particular results. Tissues can be fixed by
> dehydration, heat, salts, acids, and other chemicals. Fixation has been
> practiced for a very long time―histologists cite the year 1833 as the date
> of the origin of modern fixation because that was when chromic acid came
> into use as a hardening agent, well before formaldehyde had even been
> discovered, but specimens were being fixed by various means well before the
> 1833. The choice of fixative or fixation process depends on what organism
> you are working with and what results you want.
>
>
>
> As discussed in detail in the second edition of *Fluid Preservation: A
> Comprehensive Reference* (2025) the term pseudo-fixative is both
> incorrect and misleading. It seems to have been coined by Stoddard to
> differentiate between fixatives that form covalent bonds or crosslinks
> (e.g., formaldehyde and gluteraldehyde) and fixatives that do not form
> crosslinks. In fact, there is no such thing as a pseudo-fixative because
> fixation cannot be defined by the formation of crosslinks. There are many
> ways to fix tissue that do not form crosslinks.
>
>
>
> The specimens in question that were put into 95% ethanol have no doubt
> been fixed, and as Dirk has correctly pointed out, that process has no
> doubt resulted in osmotic damage to the tissues. Other treatments can still
> be done on the specimens, including other fixation techniques, but to refer
> to the use of 95% ETOH as a pseudo-fixative is incorrect. Fixation in
> alcohol does, in fact, result in changes in the tissues in that it unwinds
> and disorders proteins and alters the patterns of hydrogen bonding as the
> tissue is dehydrated.
>
> --John
>
> John E. Simmons
> US Fulbright Senior Scholar
> Writer and Museum Consultant, Museologica
> *and*
> Research Associate, Earth and Mineral Sciences Museum & Art Gallery, Penn
> State University
> *and*
> Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitología, Museo de Historia
> Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 1:43 AM Dirk Neumann <d.neumann at leibniz-lib.de>
> wrote:
>
>> ... and that "once they are stable in 95%", but osmotic damage is done
>> (which usually is irreversible and includes cell rupture, which makes the
>> specimens less suited for histology and analysis of fine cell structures,
>> embryos tend to be used for).
>>
>> With best wishes
>> Dirk
>>
>>
>> Am 23.04.2026 um 23:35 schrieb Simon Moore:
>>
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>>
>> Hi Beth,
>>
>> Remember that EtOH is only a pseudo-fixative as it doesn’t really bring
>> about a chemical change.
>> Sorry to be such a pedant!
>>
>> With all good wishes, Simon
>>
>> Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
>> Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian.
>>
>> www.natural-history-conservation.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 23 Apr 2026, at 21:30, Elizabeth Wommack <ewommack at uwyo.edu>
>> <ewommack at uwyo.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Verity,
>> >
>> > One thing you could do is check to see if they have finished fixing in
>> the 95% ETOH. Check to see if the concentration of the ETOH they are in is
>> 95%. If it is less then they may still be exchanging water with the
>> preservative, and you might want to put them in some fresh 95% ETOH for a
>> bit longer. Once they are stable at 95% ETOH, I switch ETOH fixed material
>> to 70% ETOH for long-term storage.
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> > Beth
>> >
>> > Elizabeth Wommack, PhD
>> > Curator and Collections Manager of Vertebrates
>> > University of Wyoming Museum of Vertebrates
>> > Berry Biodiversity Conservation Center
>> > University of Wyoming,
>> > Laramie, WY 82071
>> > ewommack at uwyo.edu
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>> > Hi Verity,
>> >
>> > I would opt for 70%; 95% not only strongly dehydrates the specimens,
>> but also causes a lot of osmotic pressure on tissue membranes, which might
>> effect the usefulness of the specimens for morphological analysis. Tissue
>> subsampling and subsequent storage of tissues in 95% for later molecular
>> investigation might be better.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps
>> > Dirk
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 22.04.2026 um 22:50 schrieb Shoobs, Nate:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Depends on what you want to use them for!
>> >> Formalin is not a great long-term preservative, even though it's a
>> great fixative. Since the tissue is fixed already, unless you want to
>> post-fix for some specific purpose like histology, I'd leave them in
>> ethanol.
>> >> It's fine to keep things in 95% indefinitely, but if you think they
>> will be used mainly for anatomical study, swapping the 95% for 70-75%  is
>> better for long term storage and will keep the tissues flexible. Some
>> institutions use 80% as a compromise between genetic and anatomical
>> preservation. If you typically voucher frozen material, I'd recommend
>> taking your tissue samples and freezing them before stepping the lot(s)
>> down in concentration. You could even chuck a whole individual in 95% into
>> the freezer.
>> >>
>> >> Personally, I rarely if ever use graded ethanol series for going from
>> high to lower concentration, especially for fresher material, I only bother
>> when going from low-high, but I'm unsure how vertebrates typically handle.
>> >> My 2 cents!
>> >> -Nate
>> >> --<image001[26].png>
>> >>
>> >> Nathaniel F. Shoobs
>> >> Curator of Mollusks
>> >> College of Arts & Sciences Dept. of Evolution, Ecology, and Organismal
>> Biology
>> >> Museum of Biological Diversity, 1315 Kinnear Rd, Columbus, OH 43212
>> >> 614-688-1342 (Office)
>> >> mbd.osu.edu/collections/invertebrates
>> >> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>
>> <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Mathis,Verity L
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>> >> I am hoping to get feedback on the best practices for some recently
>> fixed fluid specimens.  During some recent field work, our lab fixed some
>> rodent fetuses in 95% ethanol while prepping.  I’m hoping for some advice
>> on how best store them long-term now that they are back in the
>> lab/collections.  Do I keep them in 95% ETOH, re-fix them in formalin, or
>> step them down to 70% ETOH for long-term storage?  Or something else
>> altogether?
>> >>  Thanks for any insight!
>> >> Verity
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