[SAC-FAST] [Fwd: Interest group charge draft]

Tue Jul 20 15:15:46 EDT 2010

I can understand Ed's point about the helpfulness of a focus on FAST.  But
it seems to me that if the focus is to be on FAST, the group should remain
under the aegis of SAC.  Jimmie is suggesting an IG under the aegis of
CCS.  I can imagine the CCS board wondering if they would then get a
request for an AAT interest group, a MeSH interest group, etc.  It seems
to me that for a CCS interest group, the focus should be broad enough to
incorporate people other than those already heavily involved in SAC, such
as those interested in faceting in RDA, those interested in creating
systems approaches that use facets, etc.  I think that if the focus is to
remain on the development of FAST, then the group should remain a
subcommittee of SAC.

My 2 cents worth...

--Arlene

On Tue, July 20, 2010 10:14 am, O'Neill,Ed wrote:
> I have very mixed feelings about expanding the charge.  From a selfish
> point of view, the singular focus on FAST has been very valuable.  My
> personal preference would be to retain the focus on FAST but to expand
> its user/interest group function.  As FAST transitions from the
> development phase, it would certainly benefit from continuing to have
> the undivided attention of the committee.
>
> I'm supportive of having a group within SAC looking broadly at faceted
> subject access.  However, SAC just established the Faceting Task Force
> with a very similar charge.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sac-fast-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
> [mailto:sac-fast-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Arlene G. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 8:49 PM
> To: sac-fast at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [SAC-FAST] [Fwd: Interest group charge draft]
>
> I like the broadening, too, Stephen.  Is "Faceted Approaches to Subject
> Access Interest Group"  too long for a name?
>
> --Arlene
>
> On Sun, July 18, 2010 3:33 pm, Sherman Clarke wrote:
>> This broadening seems good to me, Stephen. While your suggested
>> vocabularies would generally be used by catalogers building facets,
> there
>> is also the faceting done by machine from regular old subject strings,
>> along the lines of Primo and other interfaces. Maybe the important
> thing
>> in Stephen's suggested mission statement is intent. FAST and AAT aim
> at
>> being used as facets. LCGFT is aimed at a particular facet but I like
>> including it since it is likely to be used in conjunction with LCSH or
>> other vocabularies to provide the genre/form aspect (facet).
>>
>> And then there's the question of a name, of course .... and nothing
> has
>> yet risen from the muck. Faceted IG is not very telling but yields a
>> memorable initialism.
>>
>> Sherman
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Stephen Hearn <s-hear at umn.edu>
>> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:57 pm
>> Subject: [SAC-FAST] [Fwd:  Interest group charge draft]
>> To: sac-fast at mailman.yale.edu
>>
>>> Is anyone else uncomfortable with having an interest group focused on
>>> a
>>> single list? An ad hoc SAC subcommittee is one thing, but this feels
>>> different. I'd be happier with something a little broader, e.g.
>>>
>>> To explore the theory and applications related to subject terminology
>>> intended for faceted application, including FAST (Faceted Application
>>> of Subject Terminology), AAT (Art and Architecture Thesaurus), LCGFT
>>> (Library of Congress Genre/Form Terms), and others. To provide a
> forum
>>> for users and others interested in the faceted approach to subject
>>> access to compare notes and discuss further developments and
>>> implementations of subject faceting for digital projects and related
>>> topics.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: 	[SAC-FAST] Interest group charge draft
>>> Date: 	Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:25:00 -0400
>>> From: 	Lundgren,Jimmie Harrell <jimlund at uflib.ufl.edu>
>>> To: 	sac-fast at mailman.yale.edu <sac-fast at mailman.yale.edu>
>>> References: 	<20071213112447.AZQ47757 at expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>
>>>
> <F0C6542972BAEF43B2F44823C7F581B2084039D1 at SMATHERS2K3EX.smatherslib.ufli
> b.int>
>>>
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> <B6D294BF094D5C4686C6A0FEC3AF4AAB5FED066AED at UFEXCH-MBXCL03.ad.ufl.edu>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear FAST Folks,
>>> I thought the topic or charge for the new interest group should be a
>>> little bit more. How do you like this?
>>>
>>> To explore the theory and applications related to the Faceted
>>> Application of Subject Terminology (FAST) subject heading schema and
>>> its database. To provide a forum for users and others interested in
>>> FAST to compare notes and discuss further developments and
>>> implementations of FAST for digital projects and related topics.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>> Jimmie
>>>
>>> Jimmie Lundgren
>>> Associate Chair & Contributed Cataloging Unit Head
>>> Cataloging & Metadata Dept.
>>> Smathers Library
>>> PO Box 117004
>>> University of Florida
>>> Gainesville, FL 32611-7004
>>> 352-273-2725
>>> 352-392-7365 (fax)
>>> jimlund at ufl.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sac-fast-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
>>> [mailto:sac-fast-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of
>>> Lundgren,Jimmie Harrell
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:46 AM
>>> To: sac-fast at mailman.yale.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [SAC-FAST] Interest group formation
>>>
>>> Dear FAST Subcommittee,
>>> Some of you may remember (better than I did) that we had favorably
>>> discussed re-forming as an Interest Group within CCS several meetings
>>> ago and were continuing as a subcommittee of SAC on an interim basis.
>>> It seems like the time has come to complete this transition. Since
> the
>>> application will need to be approved by CCS Executive Committee, we
>>> will need to request again that SAC continue us as a subcommittee
>>> temporarily.
>>>
>>> I am beginning to work on the necessary petition for the transition
>>> and will be asking for a little help from all of you. Please read
> over
>>> the drafted text below for the central topic and name of the new
>>> Interest Group.
>>>
>>> Also, please respond if you are willing to sign the petition.
>>> Hopefully everyone who agreed to be on the subcommittee this year
> will
>>> be willing to be listed for the interest group. If your name is not
> on
>>> the list below and you are willing to be on the petition, please let
>>> me know so I can add your name.
>>>
>>> I hope to complete the petition quickly. Qiang told me we will need
> to
>>> pass it along to Shelby Harken to obtain approval from CCS Exec. I
>>> don't know whether they need to consider approving it at a meeting or
>>> might accomplish it by email.
>>>
>>> Here are some notes from the ALCTS website on forming an Interest
>>> Group with draft text inserted for our petition.
>>>
>>> The following tasks should be accomplished:
>>>
>>>     * Identify a central topic which does not duplicate the focus of
>>> an existing ALCTS Interest Group and formulate a founding statement
>>> which explains the goals of the group and any requirement for
>>> membership.
>>>
>>> Topic: Explore and discuss the theory and applications concerning
> uses
>>> of the FAST authority database.
>>>
>>>     * Establish a membership list with a minimum of ten (10) ALCTS
>>> member's signatures.
>>> Members (from subcommittee roster)
>>>
>>> Laura Akerman
>>>
>>> Lois M. Chan
>>>
>>> Sherman Clarke
>>>
>>> Shelby E. Harken
>>>
>>> Qiang Jin
>>>
>>> Gertrude S. Koh, Ph.D.
>>>
>>> John A. Maier
>>>
>>> Arlene G. Taylor
>>>
>>> Ed O'Neill, oneill at oclc.org
>>>
>>> Jimmie Lundgren (Chair)
>>>
>>>     * Select a name for the group which reflects the central focus.
>>>
>>> Name: FAST Interest Group.
>>>
>>>     * Identify a chair for the proposed group.
>>>
>>> Chair: Jimmie Lundgren (Please let me know if you are willing to
> serve
>>> as vice chair; a new vice chair/chair elect will be elected when the
>>> Interest Group first meets)
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help and have a great day,
>>> Jimmie
>>>
>>> Jimmie Lundgren
>>> Associate Chair & Contributed Cataloging Unit Head
>>> Cataloging & Metadata Dept.
>>> Smathers Library
>>> PO Box 117004
>>> University of Florida
>>> Gainesville, FL 32611-7004
>>> 352-273-2725
>>> 352-392-7365 (fax)
>>> jimlund at ufl.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sac-fast-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
>>> [mailto:sac-fast-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Jimmie
> Lundgren
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:26 PM
>>> To: qiangjin at uiuc.edu; sac-fast at mailman.yale.edu
>>> Subject: [SAC-FAST] Interest group formation
>>>
>>> Hello Qiang and FAST Subcommittee,
>>> It was great to see you all in Philadelphia at Midwinter.
>>>
>>> When I asked at the Policy and Planning Committee meeting about how
> we
>>> proceed in establishing an Interest Group I was told that it is very
>>> easy and that the information on forming an interest group is on the
>>> ALCTS website at:
>>>
> http://www.ala.org/ala/alcts/alctsmanual/interestgroups/procedures.cfm
>>>
>>>
>>> We basically need a name, a list of 10 or more members, and a chair.
>>> Then we complete a petition and send it to the CCS Executive
> Committee
>>> for approval. Everyone at the meeting last Friday night seemed
>>> interested in transitioning from subcommittee to interest group and
> thus
>>> continuing to work together on FAST. If I understand correctly, we
>>> expect to continue as a subcommittee for another year or two then
>>> complete our assignment as a subcommittee and form as an interest
> group?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and best regards,
>>> Jimmie
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>>> --
>>> Stephen Hearn
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