[Tshwanelex-l] Digraph and trigraph sorting etc.

David Joffe david.joffe at tshwanedje.com
Sat Aug 4 03:23:35 EDT 2012


http://tshwanedje.com/builds/656/


On 3 Aug 2012 at 11:38, Andrew Clark wrote:

From:           	Andrew Clark <a.a.clark at steading.org.uk>
To:             	David Joffe <david.joffe at tshwanedje.com>,
	tshwanelex-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject:        	Re: [Tshwanelex-l] Digraph and trigraph sorting 
etc.
Date sent:      	Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:38:26 +0100

> Hi David,
> 
> When is an OS X build likely to be available?
> 
> /A
> 
> On 3 Aug 2012, at 03:41, David Joffe wrote:
> 
> > Oh yes, one quick 'caveat' - if you set up digraph sorting in the
> > new version, save the file, then load the file in a pre-.653 version
> > - the file should load, but the digraph sorting won't work properly
> > anymore. (Hopefully that should be relatively obvious.)
> >
> >
> > On 3 Aug 2012 at 3:45, David Joffe wrote:
> >
> > From:	"David Joffe" <david.joffe at tshwanedje.com>
> > To:	tshwanelex-l at mailman.yale.edu,
> >       	Menan Du Plessis <menan.du.plessis at gmail.com>
> > Date sent:	Fri, 03 Aug 2012 03:45:40 +0200
> > Priority:	normal
> > Subject:	[Tshwanelex-l] Digraph and trigraph sorting etc.
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> A test version of the (long-awaited) digraph (and trigraph etc.)
> >> supporting version of the table-based configurable sorting in TLex
> >> is now available:
> >>
> >> http://tshwanedje.com/builds/653/
> >>
> >> It would be great if it could get a little more testing before being
> >> rolled into the 'formal' build, so anyone waiting for this
> >> functionality, please give it a go. A small sample is also attached.
> >>
> >> Basically the old user interface for configuring the sorting has
> >> changed in only one way (which you can't miss): Whereas before, all
> >> variant forms where on one line, e.g.:
> >> a -> variant-forms: Aa
> >> now, the variant forms are separated by line breaks, e.g.:
> >> a -> variant-forms:
> >> A
> >> a
> >>
> >> so this allows a digraph to be entered as, for example:
> >> ch -> variant-forms:
> >> ch
> >> CH
> >> Ch
> >> cH
> >>
> >> If it's not reasonably clear let me know?
> >>
> >> Note this same system should be able to work out the box (well, with
> >> some configuration of course per dictionary etc.) not only for
> >> digraphs (or trigraphs), but also other cases where one alphabetic
> >> 'letter' may be represented by a string of 2 or more Unicode
> >> characters as a variant form - so e.g. that would include combining
> >> diacritic forms, and also non-canonical variants (that basically
> >> gmholton at alaska.edurefers to when there is more than one way in
> >> Unicode to represent the same character, e.g. e with accent can be
> >> represented, for example, either as the single precombined form:
> >> U+00e9
> >> or, slightly more unusually, as e.g. a plain latin 'e' with
> >> combining accent:
> >> U+0065 + U+0301
> >>
> >> (However, for most users compiling dictionaries, implementing that
> >> level within the sorting is not generally necessary, and can anyway
> >> be worked around in such a controlled environment. But anyway, it
> >> might be of theoretical or even practical interest to some.)
> >>
> >> - David
> >>
> >>
> >> On 17 Jul 2012 at 8:19, Menan Du Plessis wrote:
> >>
> >> Date sent:	Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:19:00 +0200
> >> From:	Menan Du Plessis <menan.du.plessis at gmail.com>
> >> To:	tshwanelex-l at mailman.yale.edu
> >> Subject:	[Tshwanelex-l] sending sample to a 3rd party; configuring  
> >> sorting
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi everyone.
> >>>
> >>> I need to send a sample soon to the people who run the electronic
> >>> archive (ELAR, at SOAS) where our material will be deposited. (Am
> >>> working on an extremely endangered language, with essentially one  
> >>> last
> >>> speaker, who is 100 years old.) So my first urgent question is:
> >>>
> >>> Q: How do I organize my sound files plus the dictionary so that my
> >>> recipient will be able to click on the icon and hear the recorded
> >>> examples I have linked to my entries? Is there a way to put them  
> >>> both
> >>> into one folder, and then specify the directory in a neutral way,  
> >>> i.e.
> >>> that doesn't include a drive on my own computer as part of the  
> >>> address?
> >>>
> >>> And my second urgent question is:
> >>>
> >>> Q: How do I configure the sorting where digraphs, trigraphs (and
> >>> polygraphs) need to be accommodated on the first pass?
> >>>
> >>> I know that David will soon be getting to me with advice on the  
> >>> second
> >>> question - and I do understand that everyone has been super busy  
> >>> getting
> >>> the 2012 version ready for release ... () - but in the mean time, it
> >>> occurs to me that this must be a pretty common need, so I'd like  
> >>> to put
> >>> it out there, in case anyone else has already worked out how to do  
> >>> this?
> >>>
> >>> I am starting to fret very slightly!
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>> Menan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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