From jason.siegel at cavehill.uwi.edu Mon Aug 10 15:28:45 2020 From: jason.siegel at cavehill.uwi.edu (SIEGEL, Jason) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 19:28:45 +0000 Subject: [Tshwanelex-l] In-text cross-references; tilde function In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, Following up on an email from last year, I was wondering whether anyone has information on how to do inline cross-references. While there are sample files that include them, I have not been able to figure out how to edit my DTD to enable them in any sort of productive way. If you have created a dictionary with inline cross-references, I would appreciate any feedback that could help me bring these projects to a publishable state. This is the main obstacle I face in the inputting of entries. Best, Jason [Description: Description: Description: uwi_crest] UWI Dr Jason F. Siegel Research Fellow in Lexicography Director, Richard & Jeannette Allsopp Centre for Caribbean Lexicography Department of Language, Linguistics and Literature Faculty of Humanities & Education The University of the West Indies CAVE HILL CAMPUS PO Box 64, Bridgetown BB11000, Barbados Telephone: (246) 417-4468 | Fax: (246) 417-0422 E-mail: jason.siegel at cavehill.uwi.edu Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/uwicavehill [Description: Description: Description: Cave Hill Email Signature19-01] Confidentiality: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email from your system. Thank you. From: Tshwanelex-l [mailto:tshwanelex-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of SIEGEL, Jason Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 4:46 PM To: tshwanelex-l at mailman.yale.edu Subject: [Tshwanelex-l] In-text cross-references; tilde function Hi all, I'm working on converting a couple of dictionary projects from Word and PDF to TLex databases. I'm running into one big problem, which is that the dictionaries in question have in-text cross-references. One of them also has cross-references to equivalent lemmas at the start of the entry, in addition to the cross-references in text. I'll give an example from Richard Allsopp's Dictionary of Caribbean English Usage, which inspired one of these projects. (h)a*ma*di*li n (Belz) [X] ARMADILLO (Guyn) [Prosthetic /h/ + AMADILI, folk pronunc of ARMADILLO] In this case, the cross-reference comes in the etymology, while in other cases it appears in the definition or some other note. Is there any way that people have found to embed the cross-references automatically? Also, is it possible to get two different tildes? One of my dictionaries has a tilde used for the headword, and a separate tilde for the pronunciation. Is there any way to have a separate function? Alternatively, is there a way to show a tilde character that is typed in that never gets expanded, unlike another tilde that may get expanded? Best, Jason [Description: Description: Description: uwi_crest] UWI Dr Jason F. Siegel Research Fellow in Lexicography Director, Richard & Jeannette Allsopp Centre for Caribbean Lexicography Department of Language, Linguistics and Literature Faculty of Humanities & Education The University of the West Indies CAVE HILL CAMPUS PO Box 64, Bridgetown BB11000, Barbados Telephone: (246) 417-4468 | Fax: (246) 417-0422 E-mail: jason.siegel at cavehill.uwi.edu Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/uwicavehill [Description: Description: Description: Cave Hill Email Signature19-01] Confidentiality: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email from your system. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have > created a dictionary with inline cross-references, I would appreciate any > feedback that could help me bring these projects to a publishable state. > This is the main obstacle I face in the inputting of entries. > > > > Best, > > > > Jason > > > > > > *[image: Description: Description: Description: uwi_crest]* > > *UWI* > > *Dr Jason F. Siegel* > Research Fellow in Lexicography > > Director, Richard & Jeannette Allsopp Centre for Caribbean Lexicography > > Department of Language, Linguistics and Literature > > Faculty of Humanities & Education > > *The University of the West Indies* > > CAVE HILL CAMPUS > > PO Box 64, Bridgetown BB11000, Barbados > > > > *Telephone:* (246) 417-4468 | *Fax:* (246) 417-0422 > > *E-mail:* jason.siegel at cavehill.uwi.edu > > *Facebook:* https://www.facebook.com/uwicavehill > > > > [image: Description: Description: Description: Cave Hill Email > Signature19-01] > > > > *Confidentiality:* This email (including any attachments) may contain > confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized > disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this message in error, > please notify the sender and delete this email from your system. Thank you. > > > > > > > > *From:* Tshwanelex-l [mailto:tshwanelex-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On > Behalf Of *SIEGEL, Jason > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2019 4:46 PM > *To:* tshwanelex-l at mailman.yale.edu > *Subject:* [Tshwanelex-l] In-text cross-references; tilde function > > > > Hi all, > > > > I?m working on converting a couple of dictionary projects from Word and > PDF to TLex databases. I?m running into one big problem, which is that the > dictionaries in question have in-text cross-references. One of them also > has cross-references to equivalent lemmas at the start of the entry, in > addition to the cross-references in text. I?ll give an example from Richard > Allsopp?s *Dictionary of Caribbean English Usage*, which inspired one of > these projects. > > > > *(h)a?ma?di?li **n *(Belz) [*X*] *ARMADILLO* (Guyn) [Prosthetic /h/ + > AMADILI, folk pronunc of ARMADILLO] > > > > In this case, the cross-reference comes in the etymology, while in other > cases it appears in the definition or some other note. Is there any way > that people have found to embed the cross-references automatically? > > > > Also, is it possible to get two different tildes? One of my dictionaries > has a tilde used for the headword, and a separate tilde for the > pronunciation. Is there any way to have a separate function? Alternatively, > is there a way to show a tilde character that is typed in that never gets > expanded, unlike another tilde that may get expanded? > > > > Best, > > > > Jason > > > > *[image: Description: Description: Description: uwi_crest]* > > *UWI* > > *Dr Jason F. Siegel* > Research Fellow in Lexicography > > Director, Richard & Jeannette Allsopp Centre for Caribbean Lexicography > > Department of Language, Linguistics and Literature > > Faculty of Humanities & Education > > *The University of the West Indies* > > CAVE HILL CAMPUS > > PO Box 64, Bridgetown BB11000, Barbados > > > > *Telephone:* (246) 417-4468 | *Fax:* (246) 417-0422 > > *E-mail:* jason.siegel at cavehill.uwi.edu > > *Facebook:* https://www.facebook.com/uwicavehill > > > > [image: Description: Description: Description: Cave Hill Email > Signature19-01] > > > > *Confidentiality:* This email (including any attachments) may contain > confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized > disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this message in error, > please notify the sender and delete this email from your system. 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