[yul-naco] FW: Polish places beginning with Województwo

Meier, Tachtorn tachtorn.meier at yale.edu
Wed May 8 15:53:51 EDT 2024


Dear Colleagues,

Just an FYI, there’s a NACO-related topic on PCC listserv.

Best,
Wheat
From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV> On Behalf Of Adam L Schiff
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Polish places beginning with Województwo

Sounds like there's an even bigger cleanup needed than even I imagined.  In the case of Województwo Mazowieckie, the BGN approved name is just Mazowieckie, and we are supposed to follow BGN.  I haven't looked at any of the other places in Geographic Names Server, but it's probably similar there for them.

Adam

Adam L. Schiff
Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
(206) 543-8409
aschiff at uw.edu<mailto:aschiff at uw.edu>

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Subject: Re: Polish places beginning with Województwo

Województwo Mazowieckie and the rest of these are like République française - the second word is an adjective.

The way these województwa/voivodeships have been established in the NAF is very inconsistent; sometimes the whole phrase, sometimes the related noun for either a city or a historic region (in this case that would be Mazowsze, in English Mazovia), sometimes with the adjective alone (which looks wrong to me).


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On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 11:03 AM Adam L Schiff <slavcat at lists.illinois.edu<mailto:slavcat at lists.illinois.edu>> wrote:
As a NACO reviewer, I was asked earlier this year to review this new NAR:



151  Borkowice (Województwo Mazowieckie, Poland)



LC established the access point Województwo Mazowieckie (Poland) [n 2001105288] and it was coded as RDA, but I don't think it was correct.  I believe that this heading should have been established as Mazowieckie (Poland).  Województwo is a word for a type of jurisdiction, in English: Voivodeship.



Here's the entry in GNS:



[cid:ii_18f58c78789bd7334ba1]

[cid:ii_18f58c787899fe1bd132]





Here's what it says in RDA 16.2.2.8<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://16.2.2.8__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!klaGF2J35ddPHyrqLsL0nk0EvzR3oMINP2_eM1LWFByGyCAFc9H80yJahc-ddSd1aNHU9StPqxFu_AJ4qw$>:



[cid:ii_18f58c787897c3cbfe63]



And in RDA 11.13.1.6<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://11.13.1.6__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!klaGF2J35ddPHyrqLsL0nk0EvzR3oMINP2_eM1LWFByGyCAFc9H80yJahc-ddSd1aNHU9StPqxEgsKn7kQ$>:



[cid:ii_18f58c7878939ab9b924]



The GNS approved name is Mazowieckie.  There are no other places in Poland in GNS with the same name, so without a conflict, I believe that the AAP for this place should be just Mazowieckie (Poland)



That means that n 2001105288 should be revised to the correct access point Mazowieckie (Poland) but it also means that there are numerous other authority records that also must be revised, e.g. Dylewo (Województwo Mazowieckie, Poland); Jadwisin (Legionowo, Województwo Mazowieckie, Poland); Jeziory (Województwo Mazowieckie, Poland); Legionowo (Województwo Mazowieckie, Poland); Lipsko (Województwo Mazowieckie, Poland : Powiat); Węgrów (Województwo Mazowieckie, Poland); and so on.  OCLC retrieves 71 geographic authority records that have Województwo Mazowieckie in them.



When I reported the above issue to PTCP, someone at LC did change the authority record to Mazowieckie (Poland) in February. But they did not change all of the additional place authorities that have (Województwo Mazowieckie, Poland) as a qualifier.  I'm wondering who should be responsible for fixing all of these others?



When I search for geographic keyword Województwo in the OCLC authority file, it's apparent that this is an even bigger problem, because I'm also finding headings for:



Województwo Lubuskie (Poland)

Województwo Opolskie (Poland)

Województwo Podkarpackie (Poland)

Województwo Podlaskie (Poland)

Województwo Pomorskie (Poland)

Województwo Śląskie (Poland)

Województwo Świętokrzyskie (Poland)

Województwo Zachodniopomorskie (Poland)



And, of course, all of the other places in the authority file that use one of these places as a qualifier.  It's a lot (650 matches on geographic keyword search for Województwo, plus any corporate bodies and titles that use any of these places as a qualifier, plus any 3XX fields that have had one of these places recorded as an attribute).



Perhaps the Slavic cataloging community and/or PCC community needs a project to clean these all up?



Adam Schiff



Adam L. Schiff

Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries

(206) 543-8409

aschiff at uw.edu<mailto:aschiff at uw.edu>
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