[Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon jars?
Alan Resetar
aresetar at fieldmuseum.org
Mon May 21 15:36:02 EDT 2012
Hi Everyone:
A few years ago, I saw this gallon jar (largest shown in this set) or one
very similar to it for sale at a local Wal-Mart -
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Anchor-Hocking-Cracker-Jar-with-Lid/16520333#Item+Description
This looks like the same set on the Anchor Hocking site -
http://www.anchorhocking.com/prodd_5623_cat_260_cracker_jar_set.html At
that time, the jar had a 120mm opening. It was not as tall at the
original, stock 120 mm gallon jars that we used before they were
discontinued in glass. The Wal-Mart jar was squarish with rounded corners
and seemed like a good size for coiled snakes, turtles, wide-bodied fish as
well as multiples of smaller specimens. The jar had an embossed but
tasteful design on the exterior. I will buy one of these if it is still
available with the 120 mm opening and take a photo of one next to the
typical gallon jar whose demise some of us are lamenting. I would imagine
that Anchor-Hocking would send a sample to anyone interested in these.
We never looked into buying the Anchor-Hocking jars in quantity because we
have a large quantity of the traditional 120 mm glass jars in reserve.
Alan Resetar
Acting Divisional Manager & Collection Manager
Division of Amphibians and Reptiles
Field Museum of Natural History
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On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Alexandra M Snyder <amsnyder at unm.edu>wrote:
> Andy, I agree that the 120mm gallon jars were nice to
> have for (some) wide bodied specimens, and especially
> snakes. But I think you would agree with me that specimen
> tanks can be a more efficient way organize and conserve
> those wide bodied or larger specimens (fishes, amphibians,
> and reptiles) without sacrificing rows and rows of shelves
> to gallon jars holding single lots that can be tagged and
> combined (systematically)into a tank. We have also found
> that the (wider "foot print")gallon jars can be readily
> replaced by the (narrower "foot print") 3-liter Le Parfait
> for large lots of small fishes or tagged frogs and
> lizards. Thereby, saving shelf space.
>
> I would venture a guess that in the long run, budgeting
> your annual costs to include the purchase of a few
> specimen tanks each year rather than specialty specimen
> jars (or even stock jars that can be used for larger
> specimens) may prove a better way to spend the money and
> conserve the specimens. (I.e., the temptation to fit a
> specimen into a larger jar than is good for the specimen
> rather than tag it and commit it to a tank, exposure to
> light, etc.)
>
> Best, Lex
>
>
>
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 16:07:05 +0000
> "Bentley, Andrew Charles" <abentley at ku.edu> wrote:
> > Lex
> >
> > We too use the Le Parfait jars but unfortunately they
> >have an even smaller opening and given the price of tanks
> >nowadays, it was nice to have the 120mm gallons to house
> >that class of specimens. The other options mentioned are
> >decidedly more expensive and well out of the range of the
> >budgets of most collections I know for regular specimen
> >containers. They may be doable for a one off "special
> >specimen" though.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > A : A : A :
> > }<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<)))_°>
> > V V V
> > Andy Bentley
> > Ichthyology Collection Manager
> > University of Kansas
> > Biodiversity Institute
> > Dyche Hall
> > 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
> > Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
> > USA
> >
> > Tel: (785) 864-3863
> > Fax: (785) 864-5335
> > Email: abentley at ku.edu
> > http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
> > : :
> > A : A : A :
> > }<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<)))_°>
> > V V V
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
> >[mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of
> >Alexandra M Snyder
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:38 AM
> > To: Dirk Neumann; Monaghan, Nigel
> > Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon
> >jars?
> >
> >For over 25 years, I have used Le Parfait French captive
> >lid canning jars for preservation of fishes. In the US
> >there are several distributors of these jars. The
> >following link lists European distributors:
> > http://leparfait.com/list-of-outlets
> >
> > Used with the white 55 Duro Buna-N rubber gaskets (US
> > manufacturer) instead of the orange gaskets (provided
> >with jars), these make excellent specimen jars. The
> >orange gaskets will hold up for a year or so but must be
> >replaced more frequently than the Buna-N rubber gaskets.
> >(Any residue left on the jar lid or rim from the old
> >orange gasket must be completely removed before replacing
> >with a new gasket.)
> >
> > The size range: 0.5 liter to 3.0 liter. Our practice is
> >to put any specimen that is too large for the 3 liter jar
> >into the stainless steel tank system rather than trying
> >to find jars to fit over-sized specimens.
> >
> > Lex
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:10:42 +0200
> > Dirk Neumann <Dirk.Neumann at zsm.mwn.de> wrote:
> >> ... another one would be Stoezle Oberglas; compared to
> >>the
> >>glass-tube-melting option, prices of both suppliers are
> >>considerably
> >>higher for comparable large ground stopper glasses ....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 21.05.2012 12:03, schrieb Monaghan, Nigel:
> >>> Folks
> >>>
> >>> For those on the other side of the Atlantic there is a
> >>>good (not
> >>>cheap though) supplier in the UK in Dixon Glass. They
> >>>also manufacture
> >>>large containers from borosilicate glass.
> >>> http://www.dixonglass.co.uk/bespoke-glassware/
> >>>
> >>> Nigel
> >>>
> >>> Mr Nigel T. Monaghan,
> >>> Keeper,
> >>> Natural History Division,
> >>> National Museum of Ireland,
> >>> Merrion Street,
> >>> Dublin 2,
> >>> IRELAND
> >>>
> >>> nmonaghan at museum.ie
> >>> www.museum.ie
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
> >>>[mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of
> >>>Dirk Neumann
> >>> Sent: 18 May 2012 07:44
> >>> To: Watters, Jessa L.
> >>> Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> >>> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon
> >>>jars?
> >>>
> >>> Dear Jessa,
> >>>
> >>> maybe I am coming up with an old idea for replacing
> >>>(commercially
> >>> produced) glass containers posted here already before,
> >>>but perhaps
> >>>still an alternative especially for large specimens (max.
> >>>width: 300
> >>>mm, max.
> >>> [stable] hight: 1200 mm): it is possible to melt larger
> >>>glass
> >>>container from borosilicate glass tubes (see attached -
> >>>glass holds
> >>>two Australian lungfishes, dimensions of the glass are
> >>>250x1000 mm).
> >>>
> >>> These glass tubes are produced by Schott Duran - and as
> >>>far as I know
> >>>- available in the US.
> >>>
> >>> Smaller glasses are possible either - we order regularly
> >>>130x300 mm&
> >>> 80x300 mm glasses from a local glassblower specialised
> >>>on production
> >>>of chemical instruments - these range about
> >>>70-80 EUR including the grinded glass lids.
> >>>
> >>> For large rays we recently orderer glasses with 300x600
> >>>mm.
> >>>
> >>> Problem surely is to find a glassblower who can handle
> >>>this.
> >>>
> >>> Compared to commercially produced glasses much more
> >>>expensive, but
> >>>offers better glass quality (no weathering / corrosion
> >>>like in
> >>>soda-lime
> >>> glass) and is - compared to plastic drums - still the
> >>>better option.
> >>>I compared prices on the SPNHC meeting in Leiden with
> >>>similar large
> >>>glass containers from Dixon glass (UK). Our price was 1/3
> >>>of the Dixon
> >>>price.
> >>> Even though Dixon offered large ground stopper glasses
> >>>and "our"
> >>>glasses are closed "only" with grounded glass planes,
> >>>this option is
> >>>very attractive& competitive - regarding price&
> >>> dimensions of the
> >>>glass.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>> Dirk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 16.05.2012 23:43, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
> >>>> Jessa
> >>>>
> >>>> Numerous people have tried and failed to get these back
> >>>>into
> >>>>production. As far as I can tell there is no one out
> >>>>there who is
> >>>>still producing these and there is not enough volume of
> >>>>need from the
> >>>>natural history community to get them back into
> >>>>production. I have
> >>>>contacted our glass supplier (Kols Containers) and they
> >>>>have
> >>>>researched this without any luck. Only 110mm gallon jars
> >>>>available
> >>>>now...
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry
> >>>>
> >>>> Andy
> >>>>
> >>>> A : A : A :
> >>>> }<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<)))_°>
> >>>> V V V
> >>>> Andy Bentley
> >>>> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> >>>> University of Kansas
> >>>> Biodiversity Institute
> >>>> Dyche Hall
> >>>> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
> >>>> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
> >>>> USA
> >>>>
> >>>> Tel: (785) 864-3863
> >>>> Fax: (785) 864-5335
> >>>> Email: abentley at ku.edu
> >>>> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
> >>>> : :
> >>>> A : A : A :
> >>>> }<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<)))_°>
> >>>> V V V
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
> >>>>[mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of
> >>>>Watters,
> >>>>Jessa L.
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:17 PM
> >>>> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> >>>> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon jars?
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone out there have a current vendor for 1 gallon
> >>>>wide-mouth
> >>>>(120mm) glass jars? It seems that everyone I talked to
> >>>>hasn't
> >>>>purchased them for years and those companies don't
> >>>>produce them
> >>>>anymore. Any help is appreciated!
> >>>> Jessa
> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> Jessa L. Watters
> >>>> Collection Manager
> >>>> Division of Herpetology
> >>>> Sam Noble Oklahoma Museum of Natural History University
> >>>>of Oklahoma
> >>>> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.
> >>>> Norman, OK 73072
> >>>> Phone: 405-325-7771
> >>>> Fax: 405-325-7699
> >>>> jwatters at ou.edu
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> > Alexandra M Snyder
> > Collections Manager-Fishes
> > Museum of Southwestern Biology
> > MSC03-2020
> > University of New Mexico
> > Albuquerque NM 87131 USA
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