[Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about polycarbonate pails and glass pickle jars for fluid-preserved specimens

Bentley, Andrew Charles abentley at ku.edu
Wed Mar 11 22:22:21 EDT 2015


Laura

I thought that Judy at Kols had mentioned that she could source them but that they were not regular stock.  Worth a try.

Yes, we have had lids with variable overlap of thread and have worked with Kols to find a supplier that has the longest overlap which equals minimal evaporation and leakage.

Andy

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From: Laura Abraczinskas <abraczi1 at msu.edu<mailto:abraczi1 at msu.edu>>
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 5:19 PM
To: Andy Bentley <abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: RE: [Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about polycarbonate pails and glass pickle jars for fluid-preserved specimens

Thank you very much Andy.

I’ll try to contact the/a person about the “large size lids”.   A search on the O.Berk website shows that their largest plastic closure with screw threads is 120mm size.  (I believe Kols  is now part of O.Berk).

And, it has been pointed out that the Anchor  Hocking glass pickle barrel jar (2.5  gallon size) has a lid that does not screw down and does not seal (even though the lid has threads)!

Best,
Laura

Laura Abraczinskas, Collections Manager
Vertebrate Collections
Michigan State University Museum
409 West Circle Drive, Room 103
East Lansing, Michigan  48824

517/355-1290 Office Phone
517/432-2846 FAX

From: Bentley, Andrew Charles [mailto:abentley at ku.edu]
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To: Laura Abraczinskas; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: RE: [Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about polycarbonate pails and glass pickle jars for fluid-preserved specimens

Laura

Our herpetology division has been using the polycarbonate pails for temporary storage of incoming material from the field.  They are great in that they are clear and as such contents are visible easily (not sure what effect light has on specimens due to this) BUT they do not seal well at all - no gasket or positive seal of any kind.  They leak if tipped.  Not sure if a gasket could be inserted into the lid to create such a seal – maybe a modified tank gasket from Delta or Steel Fixtures?

As for lids for oversized jars, you may want to check Kols Containers who have, in the past, indicated that these are still available.  Try contacting Judy Bounds at (401) 646-2300 or jbounds at kolscontainers.com<mailto:jbounds at kolscontainers.com>.  We too have some of those larger glass crocks that we guard with our life as they are not available anywhere :)

Hope that helps

Andy

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Biodiversity Institute
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Fax: (785) 864-5335
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From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Laura Abraczinskas
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about polycarbonate pails and glass pickle jars for fluid-preserved specimens

Hello,

We need to replace some of our white plastic/HDPE buckets (2 to 5 gallon size) that hold fluid-preserved vertebrate specimens.  We also have some large glass pickle jars from the 1960s (approx 3 gallon size with neck handles). These have metal lids that need replacing.  The old lids are larger than 120mm size.

I am wondering if anyone has experienced problems with or has further advice about polycarbonate plastic pails and lids that were recommended several years ago?

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I see that Anchor Hocking makes a glass pickle barrel jar (2.5 gallon size) but the lid is aluminum.
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(Also available from other sources at lower cost).

Does anyone know of sources for replacement plastic lids for large glass containers such as these?

Thank you very much,
Laura

Laura Abraczinskas, Collections Manager
Vertebrate Collections
Michigan State University Museum
409 West Circle Drive, Room 103
East Lansing, Michigan  48824

517/355-1290 Office Phone
517/432-2846 FAX

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