[Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about polycarbonate pails and glass pickle jars for fluid-preserved specimens

Thu Mar 12 06:39:09 EDT 2015

We use HDPE wide mouth screw lid containers; these are UN approved, 
airtight and made from food grade material (which should exclude at 
least too much softeners leaking into the fluid). We also use these 
drums in the field & for returning of formalin fixed fishes in the 
checked luggage; never had any problems, even under harsh field 
conditions (I personally use the same 3 drums I bought back at the end 
of the 1990ies). Especially the smaller drums easily fit into a suitcase 
or aluminium case. Lids have a massive gasket inside.

The Manufacturer is CurTec, Netherlands:
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They do have a USA branch, CurTec USA Inc., but apparently offer no 
separate website. Containers are available from US based resellers, I 
guess, might be worth to check outdoor equipment stores as well (these 
drums a used a lot for kayaking, as they are watertight, too).

Several European Collections (Berlin, Stuttgart, Cardiff, Paris, Munich) 
are using those containers in the fluid collections for considerable 
time now, without any issues or problems. Only disadvantage: they are 
not clear, which is a handicap for monitoring.

All the best
Dirk

Am 12.03.2015 um 00:33 schrieb Curtis J Schmidt:
> Our herpetology division uses 5 gallon plastic buckets with gamma seal 
> lids. Do a simple google search for "gamma seal lids" and you will see 
> numerous distributors for such. They work great!
>
> Curtis
>
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> Curtis J. Schmidt
> Zoological Collections Manager
> Sternberg Museum of Natural History
> Fort Hays State University
> 3000 Sternberg Drive
> Hays, KS 67601
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> To: "'Bentley, Andrew Charles'" <abentley at ku.edu>, 
> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> From: "Laura Abraczinskas"
> Sent by: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
> Date: 03/11/2015 05:23PM
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about polycarbonate pails and glass 
> pickle jars for fluid-preserved specimens
>
> Thank you very much Andy.
>
> I’ll try to contact the/a person about the “large size lids”.A search 
> on the O.Berk website shows that their largest plastic closure with 
> screw threads is 120mm size.(I believe Kols is now part of O.Berk).
>
> And, it has been pointed out that the AnchorHocking glass pickle 
> barrel jar (2.5gallon size) has a lid that does not screw down and 
> does not seal (even though the lid has threads)!
>
> Best,
>
> Laura
>
> Laura Abraczinskas, Collections Manager
>
> Vertebrate Collections
>
> Michigan State University Museum
>
> 409 West Circle Drive, Room 103
>
> East Lansing, Michigan48824
>
> 517/355-1290 Office Phone
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> *From:*Bentley, Andrew Charles [mailto:abentley at ku.edu]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:29 PM
> *To:* Laura Abraczinskas; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* RE: [Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about polycarbonate pails and glass 
> pickle jars for fluid-preserved specimens
>
> Laura
>
> Our herpetology division has been using the polycarbonate pails for 
> temporary storage of incoming material from the field.  They are great 
> in that they are clear and as such contents are visible easily (not 
> sure what effect light has on specimens due to this) BUT they do not 
> seal well at all - no gasket or positive seal of any kind.  They leak 
> if tipped.  Not sure if a gasket could be inserted into the lid to 
> create such a seal – maybe a modified tank gasket from Delta or Steel 
> Fixtures?
>
> As for lids for oversized jars, you may want to check Kols Containers 
> who have, in the past, indicated that these are still available.  Try 
> contacting Judy Bounds at (401) 646-2300 or jbounds at kolscontainers.com 
> <mailto:jbounds at kolscontainers.com>. We too have some of those larger 
> glass crocks that we guard with our life as they are not available 
> anywhere J
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Andy
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> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Laura 
> Abraczinskas
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:18 PM
> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about polycarbonate pails and glass 
> pickle jars for fluid-preserved specimens
>
> Hello,
>
> We need to replace some of our white plastic/HDPE buckets (2 to 5 
> gallon size) that hold fluid-preserved vertebrate specimens.  We also 
> have some large glass pickle jars from the 1960s (approx 3 gallon size 
> with neck handles). These have metal lids that need replacing.  The 
> old lids are larger than 120mm size.
>
> I am wondering if anyone has experienced problems with or has further 
> advice about polycarbonate plastic pails and lids that were 
> recommended several years ago?
>
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> I see that Anchor Hocking makes a glass pickle barrel jar (2.5 gallon 
> size) but the lid is aluminum.
>
> See for example
>
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> (Also available from other sources at lower cost).
>
> Does anyone know of sources for replacement plastic lids for large 
> glass containers such as these?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Laura
>
> Laura Abraczinskas, Collections Manager
>
> Vertebrate Collections
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