[Nhcoll-l] Labels

Fri Mar 27 04:44:34 EDT 2015

Just to put my pennyworth in as I have always advocated labels inside jars, having witnessed external labels and data sets that have either detached over time or disintegrated due to preservative leaching into them.

With all good wishes, Simon.

Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,
www.natural-history-conservation.com 

On 27 Mar 2015, at 07:33, Dirk Neumann <dirk.neumann at zsm.mwn.de> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> two thoughts on this:
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> like Andy, I would also rather use internal labels for alcohol collections instead of external ones; adding to Gretchen's cautioning, consider that the adhesives do age and that the stability of the adhesives might also be influenced (in case of plastic containers) from the plastics itself. At some point they will fail, which might entail a lot of work keep the data with specimen lots.
> 
> "Labelling", as well as "printing", is always the combination of printing medium and imprinting method. Even though you buy the same brand, the composition might change (especially that of labels, even if they are of archival quality). So if you want to introduce new handy labels, it might be worth to test if the new labels work with your imprinting method.
> 
> Cheap & reliable alternative for internal labels:
> Old HP 500&600 DeskJet printers and original HP cartridge hp 45 black in combination with high quality transparent paper as internal labels. Works not only in alcohol, but also in water based solutions (e.g. during formalin fixation and are fairly stable during alcohol ladder specimen transfer)
> 
> All the best
> Dirk
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> 
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> Am 26.03.2015 um 22:06 schrieb Anderson, Gretchen:
>> For anyone using sharpies – please test to make sure that they are not soluble in any solvent you might be using near them – including water.  Be warned – the older ones are light sensitive, and they color shift.  They are also soluble in alcohol and acetone.  I have not tested the newest version that are supposed to be “archival”.  There are other pens that you can use.
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>> Gretchen
>> Gretchen Anderson
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>> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Opitz, Cindy
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>> Maybe Paul is like me and doesn’t have a budget for thermal-transfer-printing equipment like that? Would people with the equipment consider running print batches for people who don’t have the equipment, for a fee? Does anyone do that already?
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>> Paul
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>> Silly question but why are you labelling jars and lids instead of placing labels within the jar using the thermal transfer printing system available from Alpha Systems being used by a large number of extant alcoholic collections?  The labels are unaffected by alcohol or formalin and do not yellow, brittle or fade over time and also do not leach anything into the fluid.  We have been using them for 10+ years and have been very happy.
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>> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Callomon,Paul
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>> Folks,
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>> We are starting work on rehousing our entire alcohol-preserved mollusk collection, comprising about 50,000 bottles. For many years we have used medical tape to label jars and lids, writing on it with sharpies. This works pretty well, as the tape stays stuck to glass or plastic for over 40 years. However, for the next round of rehousing I’d prefer to use pre-cut labels for the sake of neatness and speed.
>> Does anyone know of a suitable label? It can be cloth or paper, and should ideally be available in various sizes and shapes. I’m especially keen on finding a good circular label for the caps of regular 4- and 6-dram screw-top vials.
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>> Paul Callomon
>> Collection Manager, Malacology, Invertebrate Paleontology and General Invertebrates
>> Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia
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