[Nhcoll-l] Another excellent article on the value of collections

[malcolm McCallum]

the arguments against collections have nothing to do with their value.
It has to do with competing interests by others who want the space or funds
to use elsewhere.
The disbanded collections nationwide are a travesty to say the least.


On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
wrote:

> I think the opposite is true.  We should be working on them even more and
> publishing like crazy while educating the uninformed as to why we do what
> we do and the benefits to society as a whole while also educating the
> scientists as to how to convey their message.  There was some very
> unfortunate language used in that piece that caused the outcry that it
> did.  If it had been worded differently I doubt the same would be true and
> maybe those few naysayers would be much the wiser now.
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> *From:* nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Barry OConnor
> *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 12:23 PM
> *To:* Ellen Paul <ellen.paul at verizon.net>
> *Cc:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Another excellent article on the value of
> collections
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> I suppose there are two ways to deal with pretty birds: 1. don't work with
> them; 2: publish in very obscure journals and don't publicize the work.
> Prevailing wisdom says if you find a new bird, don't kill it. - Barry
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> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Ellen Paul <ellen.paul at verizon.net>
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> This is a great article. Unfortunately, there is an even bigger problem
> when it comes to vertebrates and especially cute or pretty vertebrates. The
> reaction to the collection of a single bird by Chris Filardi was appalling
> to say the least. You can run articles like this until the end of time and
> people will still get hysterical over the collection of cute/pretty
> vertebrates.
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> Ellen
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> On 1/25/16 10:10 AM, Janet Waddington wrote:
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> I’m attaching a pdf of the article in case the link doesn’t work outside
> Canada.
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> This reporter has it spot on.
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