[Nhcoll-l] FW: LARGE museum jars

Mark O'Brien mfobrien at umich.edu
Wed Oct 19 10:18:30 EDT 2016


One other thing to consider about large glass containers is that they may
not be acceptable with current fire safety codes and risk management
guidelines.

Mark

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Laura Abraczinskas <abraczi1 at msu.edu>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Several years ago, the Michigan State University Museum ordered a series
> of large borosilicate glass jars with ground glass stoppers from Dixon.
> These hold our fluid-preserved type specimens and we are happy with their
> performance. The jars were not inexpensive, and were considered a
> worthwhile investment.
>
>
>
> We also use the “white buckets” with gamma seal lids for large-sized (non
> type) specimens.  These were recommended by members of this list-serve a
> couple of years ago.
>
> And some of our materials are in stainless steel barrels (30 gallon size).
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Laura
>
>
>
> Laura Abraczinskas, Collections Manager
>
> Vertebrate Collections
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> Michigan State University Museum
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> *From:* nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@
> mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Cabrinovic
> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2016 7:36 AM
> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
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> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] LARGE museum jars
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I have to put my penny’s-worth in here to say that we use both Dixon Glass
> and Stoelzle for collections glassware at NHM London, and my personal
> experience is that both are very good, but Dixon is just as good in
> quality.  Stoelzle has suffered a bit, as far as I can see, in that the
> breadth of their range has gone down, but the range of both borosilicate
> and soda lime options available from Dixon continues to be very good.
>
>
>
> I do realise that price is obviously a factor for those institutions that
> do not purchase ground glassware, but the latter do have the plus point of
> being much more durable than other alternatives.  So I have no hesitation
> at all in recommending Dixon Glass.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> *From:* nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@
> mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Dirk
> Neumann
> *Sent:* 14 October 2016 18:01
> *To:* Tony Irwin; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] LARGE museum jars
>
>
>
> Hi all,
> as emailed few days ago, it might be worth to check if Stoelze US can
> provide such jars to the US market; I added links to the company website
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>
> I do know that ground stopper jars are not that common in US collections;
> Stoezle offers better prices & quality compared to Dixon, and if they
> supply from the US, shipping costs would no add dramatically.
>
> All the best
> Dirk
>
> Am 14.10.2016 um 18:44 schrieb Tony Irwin:
>
> I'm not sure whether they're still operating, but the British firm of
> Dixon Glass were manufacturing large glass cylinders with ground glass
> stoppers quite recently. They're not cheap, but are very high quality. I
> believe they also produced cheaper cylinders with ground glass flanges that
> were capped with a glass plate. It may be worth someone contacting them -
> info at dixonglass.co.uk
>
> Tony
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> On 14 October 2016 at 16:23, William Shepherd <w.shepherd at swiftcurrent.ca>
> wrote:
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> Andy,
>
>
>
>                 Ahhh, I figured someone must have tried it already. Too
> bad.
>
>
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> William Shepherd
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> *From:* Bentley, Andrew Charles [mailto:abentley at ku.edu]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2016 9:20 AM
> *To:* William Shepherd <w.shepherd at swiftcurrent.ca>; NHCOLL-new <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* RE: LARGE museum jars
>
>
>
> William
>
>
>
> I have tried that.  I contacted O’Berk Kols containers and they got in
> touch with their suppliers.  Unfortunately we are such small fish in the
> glass jar world that even if a large number of our museums got together and
> purchased, it still wouldn’t be worth them resurrecting the mold.  This was
> some time ago but if there is enough interest I am happy to try again to
> see if anything has changed.
>
>
>
> Andy
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> *From:* nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@
> mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>] *On Behalf Of *William
> Shepherd
> *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2016 9:54 AM
> *To:* NHCOLL-new <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] LARGE museum jars
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
>                 This does seem to come up regularly. It is somewhat of a
> niche market but seems like it should be big enough for at least one
> company to offer an acceptable option that would satisfy most needs. If
> everyone got together and had a big enough order would one of the supply
> companies due a limited run? It’s not something I use at my current
> institution but have in the past.
>
>
>
> William Shepherd
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> *From:* nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@
> mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Bentley,
> Andrew Charles
> *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2016 8:06 AM
> *To:* Jay R Cordeiro <Jay.Cordeiro at umb.edu>; NHCOLL-new <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] LARGE museum jars
>
>
>
> Jay
>
>
>
> Good luck.  This topic has come up many times over the years and no one
> has been able to find a vendor that still fabricates or sells jars larger
> than gallons.  Two alternatives that folks have been using are stainless
> steel tanks or polycarbonate storage pails from University Products -
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> They do not seal very well but I know some folks who are using them.
>
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> Andy
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> *From:* nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@
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> R Cordeiro
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:07 PM
> *To:* NHCOLL-new <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] LARGE museum jars
>
>
>
> Hi folks.
>
>
>
> I am looking for large, museum quality, glass storage jars; preferably
> with Polyethylene lined caps and (wishful thinking on this part)… straight
> sides.
>
>
>
> I am interested in jars 128 oz or greater up to 512 oz.
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> Can anyone help?
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> Thanks
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> Jay
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> Jay.cordeiro at umb.edu
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