[Nhcoll-l] Details for Botany Bill - HR 1054 - ACTION ALERT

Sun Feb 26 13:01:31 EST 2017

A capital idea --making a case for how to write bird common names. It's a
topic more diverse in opinion than bird biodiversity itself.  Grousing
about it on some lek will only raise more dust.

As for Greater problems, the Science article cited (below) references
greater sage grouse five times, sage grouse fifteen times, and grouse 23
times, and that's counting the variants for hy-phen-a-tion or
CaPiTaLiZaTiOn.

Peter

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Ellen Paul <ellen.paul at verizon.net> wrote:

> Correcting myself, after gentle nudge from a colleague:
>
> Greater Sage-Grouse
>
> Ellen Paul
>
> Executive Director
>
> Ornithological Council
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nmnh.si.edu_BIRDNET&d=DwMD-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=fSvCwcdWJgRS3FjWFgXwflHUs16QhvPSueS4RgRrbZQ&s=xp671L3woeQ-NtPVz_4jOdmk5Ku8ymWgzoi3q6cK90s&e=>
>
> Providing Scientific Information about Birds
> On 2/26/17 7:45 AM, Ellen Paul wrote:
>
> Just FYI, at least as of now, there is no active effort to list Greater
> Sage-grouse (you may as well use the correct common name, since we
> ornithologists actually have official common names and we capitalize).
>
> This has been an enormous source of discussion, fairly civilized, for many
> years. It resulted in this: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sciencemag.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=1GomxJNE-CDfN8ZIXtgMS2UawoodySE_jJ4-tzxbUls&s=m9qMhZruYkWIimYlFsHMPrjaxmmppY0iGqoekxQ8Mkc&e= 
> news/2017/02/will-trump-revamp-complex-plan-save-endangered-sage-grouse
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sciencemag.org_news_2017_02_will-2Dtrump-2Drevamp-2Dcomplex-2Dplan-2Dsave-2Dendangered-2Dsage-2Dgrouse&d=DwMD-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=gwGdml77RY19PcFnsGj3fvNj0gxTrkB-894s1PY4swg&s=9RXEIv-4k5pNsfRyIH-YSyKruBl157JtQeBhe-JthoI&e=>
>
> The states did in fact fight the listing. That's what brought about this
> agreement.
>
> Anyone who thinks a listing now is even remotely possible isn't paying
> much attention to current events.
>
> Sorry to be negative but the bill was introduced by a Democrat, has one
> co-sponsor, and was sent to five committees. Those are not good odds.
>
> Ellen
>
> Ellen Paul
>
> Executive Director
>
> Ornithological Council
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nmnh.si.edu_BIRDNET&d=DwMD-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=gwGdml77RY19PcFnsGj3fvNj0gxTrkB-894s1PY4swg&s=ulB9Mq58UMkiYHnedUk-x3l7ibodn2Ky8FKo5IAaGT4&e=>
>
> Providing Scientific Information about Birds
>
>
> On 2/25/17 12:21 PM, Peter Rauch wrote:
>
> I am wondering what meaning is intended by this statement in the "Talking
> Points" document,
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__plantconservationalliance.org_files_pca_Talking-2520Points-25&d=DwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=1GomxJNE-CDfN8ZIXtgMS2UawoodySE_jJ4-tzxbUls&s=hReTU5PHQFUt9_iGC_0c5FKDl_myiguEhateWjrVuQ0&e= 
> 20Seed%20Strategy%20and%20Botany%20Bill.pdf
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__plantconservationalliance.org_files_pca_Talking-2520Points-2520Seed-2520Strategy-2520and-2520Botany-2520Bill.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=KsMMVHi9t8WMcvLWUZhWFr52jpZl0pJc0GZjGHeMfbg&s=sjsN_Qu9zFQTBAnMkoE0-LaSZ6VDYTigc0i_JLvsrc4&e=>
>
> "... and the potentially catastrophic effects on a 12 state region of a
> listing of the grouse as an endangered species."
>
> Will the listing create a catastrophic effect on those states?  If so, why
> would those states not fight against the proposed listing?
>
> Or, is there some more esoteric meaning being intended by the statement,
> such as "Gee, these states will be embarrassed and economically impacted by
> a listing of the Sage grouse, dissuading Sage grouse tourism, for example" ?
>
> And, btw, in my opinion this statement does not contain very persuasive
> "talking points".
>
> In any case, this Sage grouse Talking Point needs some urgent attention.
>
> Peter
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Richard Rabeler <rabeler at umich.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Colleagues:
>>
>> I am passing along this Action Alert from the American Society of Plant
>> Taxonomists' Environment and Public Policy Committee, providing information
>> and links about the recently introduced US legislation that aims to
>> increase botanical knowledge (and personnel!) within the US Department of
>> Interior and to create more demand for use of native, instead of
>> introduced, plant materials in federal projects.
>>
>> Rich Rabeler, MICH
>>
>>
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