[Nhcoll-l] beetle colony invader

Tue Oct 31 11:45:03 EDT 2017

Hi!

I have been dealing with this exact problem in our colony. I have been
sorting and creating a new dermestid colony. One thing I will strongly
suggest is to do a secondary sort before placing the dermestids into a new
tank. You will almost be guaranteed to pick up some ham beetles along with
the dermestids during the initial sort. So I have been placing beetles
taken from the original colony in a cup and then sorting them out again in
a separate container before placing the dermestids in a new tank for the
time being.

Hope this helps!

Elisa

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Aren Gunderson <amgunderson at alaska.edu>
wrote:

> Thanks for the help All! Looks I will have to rescue some dermestids and
> restart the colony....
> Aren
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Barry OConnor <bmoc at umich.edu> wrote:
>
>> Dear colleagues - I'd be interested in communicating with anyone who has
>> mite problems in their dermestid colonies. I've worked with these mites in
>> the past and would be interested in seeing any specimens from outside
>> eastern North America.
>> All the best! - Barry
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Revelez, Marcia (CDC/OPHSS/CSELS/DLS) <
>> mte8 at cdc.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> HI Aren,
>>>
>>> I have had this experience personally.  Red-leggeds do kill/outcompete
>>> regular hide beetles.  If the invasion is early and if possible – monitor
>>> the colony closely and hand pick all individuals out – shouldn’t take
>>> long.  The worst thing is these guys getting into your collection area.  I
>>> am not sure how you treat your skeletons once coming out of the bugs – but
>>> if you do a classic water soak – these little guys seem to survive and hide
>>> well in any possible air pocket.  They love greasy specimens and can really
>>> be quite destructive to your specimens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you know how they red-leggeds got into your colony?  Mine got in
>>> because someone brought in a specimen straight from the field – from that
>>> point I required carcasses to be frozen prior to entry.  If you aren’t
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If it’s too late, hand pick as many hide beetles out as possible and
>>> start a new colony.  And yes, this is far easier than dealing with a mite
>>> problem…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best of luck
>>>
>>> Marcy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Marcy Revelez*
>>>
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>>> *From:* nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailm
>>> an.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *sugal
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 27, 2017 11:34 PM
>>> *To:* Aren Gunderson <amgunderson at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] beetle colony invader
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can only speak from personal experience. It was easy enough to pick
>>> healthy larvae and adults from an infested colony for re-homing in a new
>>> aquariurm. Far easier than dealing with a (tiny) mite infestation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>
>>> From: Aren Gunderson <amgunderson at alaska.edu>
>>>
>>> Date: 10/27/17 7:43 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>
>>> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>>>
>>> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] beetle colony invader
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Our dermestid beetle colony has been invaded by the red-legged ham
>>> beetle, https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Necrobia-5Frufipes&d=DwIFaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=EbSOJRqBjTtYYsheQiXDhUdvVPOe4Ju39qgfnQsHIUs&s=oYqeivlGqJYsIQjOubOycDMC061PaolaTgINqHPTibc&e=
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>>> Does anyone have any experience with these guys commingling with their
>>> dermestids? Will they kill the dermestids or are they feeding on the
>>> skeletons?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Aren
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Aren Gunderson
>>> Mammals Collection Manager
>>>
>>> University of Alaska Museum of the North
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>> --
>> -So many mites, so little time!
>>
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