[Nhcoll-l] collecting the amphibians and reptiles

Wed Jun 30 21:41:48 EDT 2021

Thanks to Dirk for recommending *Herpetological Collecting and Collections
Management*. In that book I have tried to address all the essentials for
collecting, preserving, and managing a collection. Make sure you get the
3rd edition (2015) as it is the most up-to-date.

The issue of collecting ethics is addressed in the book, but I agree with
Jessa that the ASIH guidelines are important to read as well.

One issue that is not covered in detail in *Herpetological Collecting and
Collections Management* (due to lack of space) is collecting and preserving
tissue collections for molecular work. However, this topic is well covered
in Tony Gamble's book, *Collecting and Preserving Genetic Material for
Herpetological Research* (2014), available from
https://www.amazon.com/Collecting-Preserving-Material-Herpetological-Research/dp/0916984885

If you have any questions about collecting, preserving, or managing
specimens of reptiles and amphibians, please let me know.

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
*and*
Associate Curator of Collections
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
Penn State University
*and*
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 7:43 AM Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu> wrote:

> Lennart,
> I would also recommend the Herpetology Animal Care Guidelines put out by
> ASIH (American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists):
> https://asih.org/animal-care-guidelines . While the later sections of
> this document are on care of live animals, the earlier sections are on
> collecting, euthanasia, museum specimen prep, etc.
>
> In terms of ethics, we all follow local permit guidelines (local to where
> we collect) and usually institutional IACUC rules (Institutional Animal
> Care and Use Committee). These both vary greatly by state/country and
> institution, so sometimes the methods change a bit based on where you are
> doing the collecting and/or the research objectives. This is a good general
> resource on IACUC:  https://www.aalas.org/iacuc
>
> In regards to why we herpetologists collect, it is for every reason you
> mentioned and more, so there isn't a short easy answer there. 🙂
> Jessa
>
>
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> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Dirk
> Neumann <neumann at snsb.de>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 29, 2021 1:13 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] collecting the amphibians and reptiles
>
> Hi Lennart,
>
> I may refer you to the book of the dear colleague John E Simmons:
> https://www.amazon.com/Herpetological-Collecting-Collections-Management-3rd/dp/0916984907
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Herpetological-2DCollecting-2DCollections-2DManagement-2D3rd_dp_0916984907&d=DwMDaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=fALlcWhjwcaN_0uFjfpoGQ&m=s0JpPq6nQZha3x2XxUGVefEqlfnJZufMwym17AGVbD4&s=dJHXM4yxwUgJFc9wN-6_-GzV9Lm80F89d1EZNoHB6RE&e=>
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> Even though the stuff John refers to in his book has more legs and arms
> the fish I used to work with should have, I found this book extraordinary
> useful for my work and learned a lot from it.
>
> Hope this helps
> Dirk
>
>
>
> Am 28.06.2021 um 17:40 schrieb Lennart Lennuk:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
> How do you collect reptiles and amphibians in your institutions?
>
> Have you got any specific research goal or are you collecting to gather
> temporal and spatial data for further research questions. Also it would be
> helpful information how you euthanize them and in what circumstances this
> is ethical.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Lennart Lennuk
>
> Head of collections
>
> Estonian Museum of Natural History
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