[Nhcoll-l] ΑΠ: Advice on estimating the value of donated collections?
Battermann, Nora
battermann at snsb.de
Wed Mar 9 03:50:42 EST 2022
Dear all,
thanks for your replies so far. I fully agree with Maria - it would be
incredibly useful to establish a method for estimating the value of
natural history collections. Obviously, the value is infinite/impossible
to measure but unfortunately there are instances in which we need to put
a number on the value of a collection - be that insurance,
posting/taxes, buying/selling or, at least in Germany for tax purposes,
donation receipts.
Best wishes,
Nora
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Am 2022-03-09 08:11, schrieb Maria Dimaki:
> Dear all,
>
> indeed, it is a very interesting subject! The last years, I am asked
> about the economic value of specimens or collections. Usually from
> donators, for insurance, or other administrative reasons. My answer is
> always that each specimen is priceless and that it is impossible to
> define the value of a natural history museum collection in euros.
>
> If the person insists, I answer that is definitely not our job to
> “tag” a prize on specimens or collection and he should address to
> the tax office (and I am sure that they know nothing on the subject,
> in Greece).
>
> For some time know, I believe that, we should establish a method to
> estimate the value of Natural History Collections based on their
> scientific, cultural and educational value, by using appropriate
> criteria and a scoring system.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Maria
>
> Dr. Maria Dimaki
>
> Collections Manager
>
> In Charge of the Department of Terrestrial Zoology
>
> Goulandris Natural History Museum
>
> 100, Othonos St. Kifissia, GR 145 62, Greece
>
> Από: Dirk Neumann
> Αποστολή: Τρίτη, 8 Μαρτίου 2022 7:39 μμ
> Προς: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Θέμα: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on estimating the value of donated
> collections?
>
> Dear Hannu,
>
> 1€ would be better; within the EU (and the single market) you have
> no customs borders anyway, and if you need to send materials to
> Norway, Switzerland or Iceland, 1€ would be preferable to avoid
> import taxes. Usually, the threshold for import tax is low (until the
> most recent amendment this year, the minor threshold value was 22€).
> Colleagues were charged recently few cent because the declared value
> was 5€ ...
>
> With best wishes
>
> Dirk
>
> Am 08.03.2022 um 12:48 schrieb Hannu Saarenmaa:
>
>> The answer is "nil". In computer science terms that means it does
>> not exist. Nil also means "infinite".
>>
>> Museum objects are irreplaceable. So there is no commercial value.
>> Or something that can be insured. Natural science collections cannot
>> be insured.
>>
>> My company bioshare.com regularly sends collections over the
>> European Union border, for digitization, that is. While doing that,
>> we have to put something in the customs forms. And to inform our
>> insurance company. So we put there the value of the paper sheets
>> which carry the [invaluable] herbarium sheets, or other objects.
>> That currently is 28€ per specimen. Do not laugh. This is how it
>> works.
>>
>> Anyway, I still prefer to report "nil" or zero value for the
>> irreplaceable. If I can.
>>
>> Hannu Saarenmaa www.bioshare.com [1]
>>
>> On 2022-03-08 11:42, Battermann, Nora wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I thought this a very interesting discussion but understand that it
>> mainly concerned US institutions. I'd be interested to hear from
>> European institutions too - how do you estimate the values of
>> donated collections? I am not aware of a list of appraisers who
>> specialize in natural history collections in Germany for example and
>> wonder how other institutions handle acquisitions, especially
>> donations.
>>
>> Greetings from sunny Munich,
>> Nora
>>
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>> Am 2022-02-28 19:50, schrieb Tacker, Christopher:
>>
>> Everyone has offered good advice here.
>>
>> Apart from conflicts of interest, the one that does the appraisal
>> stands to get involved with the state or federal tax enforcement. If
>>
>> the appraisal is called into question, that represents a nearly
>> limitless time sink in hearings or in court.
>>
>> We tell donors that we will work with whatever appraiser they
>> designate. We still get offers of "I'll donate this if you'll get me
>>
>> an appraisal for X amount of money." That's a big "no, thank you."
>>
>> Chris Tacker
>>
>> Chris Tacker, Ph.D., P.G.
>> Research Curator of Geology
>> North Carolina Museum of Natural Sciences
>> 11 West Jones St. | Raleigh, NC 27601
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>> Good morning all,
>>
>> A colleague at a regional museum reached out to ask me for advice on
>>
>> how to estimate the value of a collection of donated birds (mostly
>> skins, some taxidermy mounts). He’s not interested in individual
>> values for each piece, but a big picture “lump sum.” I’m sure
>> this has come up on the listserve before, but I haven’t been able
>> to
>> locate it. If anyone has ideas or can point me in the direction of a
>>
>> resource to send to my colleague, I’d really appreciate it! I have
>>
>> no appraisal skills myself – and I’m a botanist – so I’m at
>> a
>> total loss on my end.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sarah
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