[Nhcoll-l] [EXT] Photograph attached to herbarium specimen 'Primordial Women'

Tue Oct 11 09:33:56 EDT 2022

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“... I ask myself question like: would I want school children searching my database to find this content without interpretation? …”

That’s kind of my point. As the saying goes, “those who forget their past are doomed to repeat it”. If you erase it’s, no one ever has the chance to question such attitudes. If no one questions them, the attitudes may re-surface when there is no generation that remembers living with such things.
I remember living in a world where such attitudes were come across regularly. The issues were invisible to some people then, but my mother would point out such issues. She also pointed out that the fight for your rights is never over. Those who would benefit from you not having rights are always around, so the forces to remove the rights are always present. You can never sit back and say “the fight is over, we can relax now”.
Valerie Tomlinson

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Date: Friday, October 7, 2022 at 2:53 PM
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"I am looking for some advice on a specimen image we were about to upload ... contains what seems to be a picture cut out from a publication of two women in partial clothing, and what some may find as a distasteful description...”

I'm inclined to not re-write history, nor judge the past by modern standards. However, I would probably include a "trigger-warning" as an introduction (e.g. "contains images that some may find offensive"; or "old-fashioned, politically incorrect values expressed in the following images. These do not represent the values of the Chrysler Herbarium").

Valerie Tomlinson

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Hello everyone,

I am looking for some advice on a specimen image we were about to upload to our Symbiota portal where host our herbarium records. The specimen contains what seems to be a picture cut out from a publication of two women in partial clothing, and what some may find as a distasteful description below… “Primordial Women Plucking Fruit from a Living Fossil.”

Has anyone come across this before, and what have you done regarding to uploading the image of the specimen?

All suggestions and comments welcome!

Regards,
Megan

Megan Ryan King | Assistant Curator Education and Outreach | Collections Manager, Chrysler Herbarium | Graduate Student | Rutgers University, New Brunswick | Department of Ecology, Evolution, and Natural Resources | Department of Ecology & Evolution | Email: megan.king at rutgers.edu<mailto:megan.king at rutgers.edu> | Office: 848-932-4158

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