Michael Raine mraine at
Fri Jun 2 21:04:12 EDT 2000


A tape with subtitles would certainly be easier to use. That's what I
originally intended to do. With the help of the Animania group at the
University of Michigan I now have a subtitled tape of Crazed Fruit -- though
I'm not sure that it was worth the effort. Here are some problems I came

1: it's a pretty clear copyright infringement.
2: it takes a lot of equipment -- Avid editors are not cheap! Even using Sub
Station Alpha requires a genlock and the results aren't that impressive.
3: it's extremely time consuming. I looked at using Premiere to make
subtitles -- perhaps there's other, specialist, software.
4: digitizing a VHS tape, adding subtitles, then recording back to VHS
degrades the image 	quality.
5: once done, the subtitles aren't modifiable without going over the whole
6: Europe and the USA (and Japan etc) use different VHS standards.

In the end I thought preserving the DVD or original tape image and
superimposing subtitles was the quickest and highest quality method. It does
get quite complicated if all you have is a tape though.... Still, if you
have the time and the equipment, and don't care too much about copyright,
I'm sure there'd be plenty of people happy to watch what you produce!


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-KineJapan at
[mailto:owner-KineJapan at]On Behalf Of Andrew
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:45 PM
To: KineJapan at
Subject: Re: subtitling


i'm also keen to try and get involved with some subtitling...

however, the method i'd devised might be slightly hoof-footed? i have access
to avid editing equipment and was planning simply to digitise the original
footage, add subtitles, and then master the material back on to tape.

i'm presuming, though, that there's probably a much easier way of doing

please advise!

many thanks in anticipation,

                              - andrew utterson -

>From: "A.M. Nornes" <amnornes at>
>Reply-To: KineJapan at
>To: KineJapan at
>Subject: Re: subtitling
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:53:58 +0900
>At 11:38 PM -0400 5/31/00, Michael Raine wrote:
> >
> > Would anyone else like to make some subtitles?
> >
>This summer I'm hoping to try a couple early animation and documentary
>films. I'll report how it goes. I would like to get this subtitling
>consortium off the ground. Hope others are thinking about it.

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