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[d. freire]

       Mass culture indicates culture as commodified and administered,
pretargeted and produced for large numbers of consumers: the masses. Popular
culture must be carefully distinguished from the culture industry's
productions, if the popular is to retain any critical force or resistant
grass-roots connection to the "people." (Marylin Ivy. Discourses of the
Vanishing: Modernity, Phantasm, Japan.)


end of argument.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Larson" <plarson at contextmedia.com>
To: <KineJapan at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: ...


> Who care what americans like or do not like? It really does not seem
> productive to pass judgement on what one person likes or does not like.
>
> Sure, there are a lot of bad American movies but there are also tons of
> good ones. But realistically, for every good Japanese or Chinese movie
> made there are like 10 bad ones. I really don't think the ratio is much
> different.
>
> I personally could care less if American's open their minds or not. I
> don't feel that most film snobs have a very open mind either.
>
> So there.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Duncan [mailto:neku78 at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:01 PM
> To: kinejapan at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
> Subject: ...
>
>
> Short but Sweet,
>      First off, I need to state that I am American and have been
> watching
> subtitled fliks since I was about thirteen.  Thanks to Bruce Lee.  Not
> all
> Americans have aversion to actual reading in a film, nor should all
> Americans be grouped with the fanboys of droll like Armagedden or
> Godzilla.
> Having stated that, "most" Americans DO NOT like subtitles.  There is a
> certain conceitedness that some Americans have about foreign films.
> SOME
> Americans believe that all good film comes out of the US.  They are
> quite
> wrong.  Some of the worst cinema comes out of the Hollywood formula.  I
> also
> realize I am preaching to the choir here.  Any Americans recieving this
> mail
> have already subscribed to a list involving and about Japanese cinema,
> and
> so apparently have no problems with the subtitle thing.  I personally
> love
> subtitles compared to the always terrible dubbing thing.  Of course
> there is
> no anger here.  The comments about what stereotypical Americans like and
>
> dislike is correct.
>      On another note, some people have seen upset about the typical
> response
> on CTHD from American audiences.  Whatever the response, the idea that
> any
> asian film besides Jackie Chan would recieve such high comendation is
> wonderful.  Who cares how its being recieved, all that matters to me is
> the
> possibility Americans will open their minds a bit more to foreign film,
> and
> Asian film in particular.  Who cares about intial reaction.
>      Lastly, I am in dire need of finding some Japanese Samurai type
> movies.
>   I looked these up on Amazon, but found no hits.  Kokushi muso, mito
> komon,
> joi uchi, seppuku, mito komon, jikokumon, ansatsu, and tange sazen
> hyakuman-ryo no tsubo.  I have some important research to finish and
> need
> these films (or others) to finish it.  If anyone has ANY suggestion on
> where
> I can find some of these it would be much appreciated.  VHS if possible
> or
> DVD if thats the only thing I can find.  My sister has the DVD so its
> still
> possible for me to see them that way.  Thank ya's, and happy days.
> --it's great to see new subscribers! Write and contribute..
> Neku...
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