...

[d. freire]

 ...and if these distinctions had been made to all parties, instead of
implied, this sensitivity would have been avoided
although that reply was targeted towards the first message...



----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Larson" <plarson at contextmedia.com>
To: <KineJapan at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: ...


> And?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: d. freire [mailto:drainer at mpinet.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 5:56 PM
> To: KineJapan at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
> Subject: Re: ...
>
>
>        Mass culture indicates culture as commodified and administered,
> pretargeted and produced for large numbers of consumers: the masses.
> Popular
> culture must be carefully distinguished from the culture industry's
> productions, if the popular is to retain any critical force or resistant
> grass-roots connection to the "people." (Marylin Ivy. Discourses of the
> Vanishing: Modernity, Phantasm, Japan.)
>
>
> end of argument.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Larson" <plarson at contextmedia.com>
> To: <KineJapan at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:20 PM
> Subject: RE: ...
>
>
> > Who care what americans like or do not like? It really does not seem
> > productive to pass judgement on what one person likes or does not
> like.
> >
> > Sure, there are a lot of bad American movies but there are also tons
> of
> > good ones. But realistically, for every good Japanese or Chinese movie
> > made there are like 10 bad ones. I really don't think the ratio is
> much
> > different.
> >
> > I personally could care less if American's open their minds or not. I
> > don't feel that most film snobs have a very open mind either.
> >
> > So there.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Duncan [mailto:neku78 at hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:01 PM
> > To: kinejapan at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
> > Subject: ...
> >
> >
> > Short but Sweet,
> >      First off, I need to state that I am American and have been
> > watching
> > subtitled fliks since I was about thirteen.  Thanks to Bruce Lee.  Not
> > all
> > Americans have aversion to actual reading in a film, nor should all
> > Americans be grouped with the fanboys of droll like Armagedden or
> > Godzilla.
> > Having stated that, "most" Americans DO NOT like subtitles.  There is
> a
> > certain conceitedness that some Americans have about foreign films.
> > SOME
> > Americans believe that all good film comes out of the US.  They are
> > quite
> > wrong.  Some of the worst cinema comes out of the Hollywood formula.
> I
> > also
> > realize I am preaching to the choir here.  Any Americans recieving
> this
> > mail
> > have already subscribed to a list involving and about Japanese cinema,
> > and
> > so apparently have no problems with the subtitle thing.  I personally
> > love
> > subtitles compared to the always terrible dubbing thing.  Of course
> > there is
> > no anger here.  The comments about what stereotypical Americans like
> and
> >
> > dislike is correct.
> >      On another note, some people have seen upset about the typical
> > response
> > on CTHD from American audiences.  Whatever the response, the idea that
> > any
> > asian film besides Jackie Chan would recieve such high comendation is
> > wonderful.  Who cares how its being recieved, all that matters to me
> is
> > the
> > possibility Americans will open their minds a bit more to foreign
> film,
> > and
> > Asian film in particular.  Who cares about intial reaction.
> >      Lastly, I am in dire need of finding some Japanese Samurai type
> > movies.
> >   I looked these up on Amazon, but found no hits.  Kokushi muso, mito
> > komon,
> > joi uchi, seppuku, mito komon, jikokumon, ansatsu, and tange sazen
> > hyakuman-ryo no tsubo.  I have some important research to finish and
> > need
> > these films (or others) to finish it.  If anyone has ANY suggestion on
> > where
> > I can find some of these it would be much appreciated.  VHS if
> possible
> > or
> > DVD if thats the only thing I can find.  My sister has the DVD so its
> > still
> > possible for me to see them that way.  Thank ya's, and happy days.
> > --it's great to see new subscribers! Write and contribute..
> > Neku...
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