learning japanese script
cindytoku at optonline.net
Tue Aug 14 11:19:24 EDT 2007
Jasper and Emma --
I guess I'm about at Jasper's level (6 years) -- and I wholeheartedly
agree with his approach of integrating kanji learning/use as early as
possible -- for many reasons, not least enjoyment, clarity, holistic
orientation within the language...
At 11:16 AM 8/14/2007, you wrote:
>Good look on taking the plunge. Yes, the three scripts do all occur in the
>same sentence on many occasions!
>I'll just add that as someone who started learning fairly recently (about 6
>years ago) and counts himself as a far better reader than a speaker, I found
>Japanese For Busy People very limited in their usefulness. The fact that
>they use only romaji and hiragana up a fairly high level, without really
>introducing kanji at all, indicates that they werent designed by a Japanese
>There's a school of though that says you should learn how to speak first and
>learn kanji later. I personally disagree - I think they are too seperate
>skills which can be learn in tandem without any detriment to each other, and
>in fact facillitate the learning of each other. As you'll have noticed,
>Japanese vocab, esepcially at a more abstract level, doesnt bare much
>relationship to any European language, and i found it a lot easier to
>remember how to pronounce a word if you can visualise its kanji.
>So I would suggest keeping Japanese For Busy People on the backburner or as
>supplmentary material, and use the brilliant Minna no Nihongo books, which
>is what any Japanese teacher in Japan would use.
>I am not sure if these books are easy to get on line, as I bought mine in
>Japan, but here's a starting place for your search:
>The books are great because they introduce the simple kanji, for example,
>'hito' or 'ue', as you come across them. You can get up to a good 100
>serviceable characters in a very short time.
>Another great resource for kanji that I used which explains how it works was
>a Tuttle publication called something like How to Learn Kanji. It only
>introduces a few simple ones, but it explains how they work conceptually. I
>remember when I first moved to Japan sitting on the Odakyu line every day
>looking at the signs with this book in my hands and gradually working out
>that places like Machida meant "town-field" and Yokohama meant "next to the
>beach" etc, and it soon flowed from there.
>I've also got a great book, A Guide to Remembering Japanese Characters,
>which lists about 1800 kanji and explains their derivations - its very
>intimidating at first, but very useful in the long run.
>So there's my tips - Minna no nihongo!
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>From: KineJapan at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
>To: kinejapan at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu <kinejapan at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>Subject: learning japanese script
>Date: 14/08/07 05:03
> > Hello all.
> > I have just embarked upon the long path of learning to read and write
> > Japanese. I am using the 'Japanese for busy people' workbooks, and have
> > sailing through learning hiragana, but much to my dismay when i went to
> > out my new skill on www.amazon.jp i find all the sentences to be
> > of hirigana, kanji and katakana. I realise to all you who know how to read
> > japanese this is very obvious, but it there anyone out there to whom
> > japanese is not their first language who can instill me with some
> > that it is possible to learn it all - and why are there 3 forms within
> > sentence!
> > Emma Newbery BA (hons), MA, PGCE
> > Programme Leader
> > BTEC National Diploma in Media Productions
> > Blackpool and the Fylde College
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