shutai vs. shutaisei ?

[Yuriko Furuhata]

Hi Mathieu,

When I talked to Matsumoto, he did say that Hanada's work was very 
important. As for the Yoshimoto/Hanada debate, there are so many 
different ways to interpret it! Kogawa's reading of the debate is useful.

Cheers,
Yuri

Mathieu Capel wrote:
> Indeed, dear Yuri,
> You're perfectly right, Hanada appears in Zen'ei kiroku eigaron, what 
> I had forgotten or omitted... Maybe was I influenced by some 
> impression of mine I got the first time I saw Bara no s?retsu : when 
> Eddie goes down to the art gallery,we can hear a pre-recorded voice, 
> talking about masks and so on. At first, I thought it was Hanada's 
> "Kamen no hy?j?" being read, although Matsumoto claims to be the 
> author of this text. But both are so close to each other ! I then got 
> to think that there was something unclear between Hanada and 
> Matsumoto. Of course that feeling increased reading Eiz? no hakken...
> But back to 1958 and then, Hanada was indeed a controversial figure : 
> I wish I could learn more about the Yoshimoto/Hanada argument 
> (unfortunately Komura's "Mahiru no kett?" book seems to be OOP) for 
> instance... But after being so influential during the mid 40's-50's, 
> did not the very same people who adored him first turned their back on 
> him, as he seemed to regard all the new wave stuff with a sometimes 
> contemptuous look (except for Oshima)... By the way was it possible to 
> worship both Yoshimoto and Hanada at the same time ? It is something I 
> really feel ashamed not to have more informations about...
>
> Mathieu