Roger Kuhlman

Neil Jones Neil at
Tue Sep 28 18:14:12 EDT 1999

In message <199909281829.LAA05236 at> "Jacob Groth" writes:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

I have to admit to being sceptical of Mr Groth's motives in posting this.
He is new to Leps-l but is very familiar to me from DPLEX-L
as a known anti-conservationist.

The message could easily have been sent to the list administrator privately.
 Roger's email address has been removed from the messages. If others
had it a quiet word of advice might be all that is needed.
 Please contact me privately Roger. I don't think you have got the hang
of how this works.

It looks suspiciously like an attempt just to discredit the opposition.
> To the list administrator,
> I have asked Roger Kuhlman repeatedly to stop sending me private hate
> messages.  I told him that I would be happy to have discussions with him in
> a cordial way without personal attacks.  But, he has continued to send
> defaming messages to me on my private e-mail.  Already 2 messages have come
> in today.  Is there anything the administrator can do to control him or
> remove him from the list if he continues?

No. He may not be on the list at all.
I don't think you know that leps-l is gated to

> I have sent him a message
> stating that if he continues I will post his personal attacks on me to the
> list.

Posting personal email to lists without consent is considered to be a gross
breach of netiquette. OK we have a guy who cares passionately for butterflies
I can understand that. He then sees someone dissembling. He gets angry.
Wrong reaction, but he is human. Provoking him by posting his private
messages to the net is not going to help.

This is the public internet. Free Speech reigns. Isn't it amazing how
those who are so passionate in their abhorence of regulation suddenly
become proponents when they are involved personally.

If you post here you risk getting flamed personally. You will also
get spam. There is no cure for that either. 

Roger shouldn't be posting his messages to you, but then you should
not be posting them to the list. Two wrongs do not make a right.

> But, I don't want to "infect" the list with this type of behavior so
> I am seeking any other method.  Please advise.
> Sincerely,
> Jacob

Neil Jones- Neil at
"At some point I had to stand up and be counted. Who speaks for the
butterflies?" Andrew Lees - The quotation on his memorial at Crymlyn Bog
National Nature Reserve

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