Linda Rogers. How it works.

[Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX]

Thank goodness for political activists.  They are an essential component of
decision making in democratic societies.  This includes political activists
who speak for butterflies :-) as well as those who have business interests
(including a certain association that apparently is a privately owned
company ??)

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil at NWJONES.DEMON.CO.UK [mailto:Neil at NWJONES.DEMON.CO.UK]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:01 AM
To: leps-l at lists.yale.edu
Subject: Re: Linda Rogers. How it works.


In article <004201c03320$9e1f5f00$9b0f1218 at gscrk1.sc.home.com>
           gatrelle at tils-ttr.org "Ron Gatrelle" writes:

I am making this posting because, yet again people, don't appear to know
certain facts and a known political activist is posting misleading
information intended to deceive. I do so not out of a wish to provoke
a fight but in the interests of honesty and fair dealing.

>     Sorry, I was ready to be done with the monarch thing. But The message
> form Linda Rogers compels me to jump in here again. First, her message
then
> my comments.
> 
> Dear Linda,
>     Your kidding, right. I find it hard to believe that anybody today is
> really that naive (sweet). Have you ever heard of Cocaine?
>     "Gosh, Pablo, how are we going to get this three tons of drugs to the
> US? I mean we cannot ship drugs (live insects) from Mexico into the U.S.
> without a permit from the FDA (USDA)."   Your statement of... "you cannot
> ship live insects from Mexico into the U.S. without a permit." is
> incredible. No wonder you, by your own words, don't get it.  How is it
> suppose to WORK?  BY BREAKING THE LAW! If there are marijuana farms there
> can be illegal any-other-kind of "farm."

I think you are new and don't realise what Ms Rogers was really about.
She is involved in a "business activity" which is in conflict
with a major lepidoptera association. Her own associates, are also it
appears,
involved in what may be rather broadly described as "research" which
involves paying  what many people regard as excessive and over the odds 
prices for tagged 
monarchs. Some people may remember the posting from an USDA officer
describing
criminal investigations which would appear to be linked to this "research".
Certainly they involve one of their leading exponents.

Those of us who have been around for a while will have recognised an 
attempt to discredit those who wish to see Ms Rogers' business more closely
regulated.

Ms Rogers may well be a little naive, to be involved with these people.
(I would not have used the word "Sweet".) There can however be no doubt
that she is involved in what I what it appears any reasonable and 
well-informed person would see as a SCAM.


-- 
Neil Jones- Neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk http://www.nwjones.demon.co.uk/
"At some point I had to stand up and be counted. Who speaks for the
butterflies?" Andrew Lees - The quotation on his memorial at Crymlyn Bog
National Nature Reserve