Mexican deforestation - Monarch butterfly

RENE BOUTIN rboutin at
Fri Sep 22 10:30:06 EDT 2000

Hey Neil,
              try to put your duty as a human being before your duty as a
citizen,that's all .
               Do you understand the difference.
                                                  René Boutin

Neil Jones wrote:

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>            rboutin at "RENE BOUTIN" writes:
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> > When I first got a computer 3 years back,I did not know what* to flame*
> > ment,till I saw a post by Neil Jones,and so1,095 days later and even more post
> > from him is another post from Neil  Jones  did I get the flame word right or
> > don't I understand
> >        This guy must all be about self combustion
> Non. Vous n'avez pas raison. Ecoutez tres attentivement, je dirai cela
> qu'une fois. Je regrette que je ne peut pas repondre en Francais, mais
> mon ordinateur n'a pas la facilite de produire les accents.
> No. You are incorrect. Listen very carefully I shall say this only once.
> I am sorry that I cannot reply in French but my computer doesn't have
> the facility to produce accents.
> Monsieur Boutin has a difficulty with English with which I sympathise.
> (Where I come from English is not the native language.) I believe that this
> has led him to the wrong conclusion. He has spoken about this before
> so I know exactly of whom he speaks.
> A few years ago there was a guy on the list who had a criminal conviction
> for violating wildlife protection laws. He was in the words of one
> of the most ardent and dedicated collectors I have encountered " A young man
> with a problem." This was evident from his religious mania, delusions
> of grandeur and strong paranoia. He believed his rantings on the internet
> were" historic" and that he was the victim of persecution which senior
> figures in the US goverment should sort out.
> He raved against many people on the list. One was a parasite on society
> because of the form of his email address! Others were genocidal racists!
> When I and a leading figure in British entomology quoted some solid research
> which contradicted one of his absurd pet theories, we were accused of
> practicing witchcraft! Clearly not the most sane of people. My conclusions
> are supported by several leading figures in North American entomology
> who have met this young man in person.
> He got particularly angry with me because I had got hold of a full list
> of his crimes. He was nasty to me and I did respond very forcefully as
> did others. The original founder of the list actually told him
> to take his paranoid delusions elsewhere.
> It appears that Monsieur Boutin, quite understandably, didn't fully
> understand the problem. I can see with hindsight that perhaps I should
> have responded to the poor wretched young man with some sympathy.
> I have seen very similar symptoms develop in an other person who was
> later diagnosed with Schizophrenia. However, I have, and always will,
> warn people, who may be unware, of dishonest or criminal behaviour
> on this forum. It is my duty as a citizen to do so.
> --
> Neil Jones- Neil at
> "At some point I had to stand up and be counted. Who speaks for the
> butterflies?" Andrew Lees - The quotation on his memorial at Crymlyn Bog
> National Nature Reserve
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