HO HO WHAT?
Chris J. Durden
drdn at mail.utexas.edu
Wed Dec 12 22:09:04 EST 2001
I think you have a rather healthy perspective. The whole monarch
release flap is worthy only of a Gilbert & Sullivan production. Too many
comfortable bureaucrats with too little to do. How do they feel in Britain
and Ireland about release of Monarchs at events?
At 12:48 PM 12/12/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>butrfly at epix.net wrote:
> > Stan Gorodenski wrote:
> >> Finally, with respect to butterfly releases in general, I think the
> practice is a hold over from man-woman-kind's primitive ancestry. It
> >>seems to me that the one trait butterfly releasing (for weddings,
> >>birthdays, and other such events) has in common with satanism is that
> >>both use other life forms for ritualistic purposes and societal (group)
> >>events. For this reason, I am totally against these kinds of releases,
> >>and do not support businesses that promote this activity.
> > Dear Dr.Gorodenski
> > It seems that your feelings about releasing and a brother/sisterhood
> > with
> > satanism covers many religions.
> > Rick Mikula
>True. And check out Leviticus to see what happens to those doves when an
>*old-time* religion gets ahold of them. No, they don't go fluttering away
>picturesquely. Not never no more.
>I think given that many of us are pretty carnivorous, we won't find any
>moral high ground when it comes to how we treat "other life forms", with
>or without companions. Why, I live in a country where we routinely
>slaughter large birds and all celebrate at the resultant feast. And I'm
>sure the bird had other plans.
>I would probably find solace and comfort dumping a virgin into a volcano,
>any old time, but try to find one. ;-)
>My motto is "Good is better than evil, because it's nicer." It was good
>for Mammy Yoakum and it's good enough for me.
>If you consider the big picture for these released butterflies, their life
>is likely to be nasty, brutish and short ... but that's how it is for
>butterflies, at the best of times. So are they, like cut flowers, just a
>pretty thing to play with?
>Maybe yes. They're just bugs, after all, regardless of how we have
>festooned them with meaning and hung them round with sentimentality.
>I don't think inconveniencing scientists is very important. Can't we tag
>those released butterflies, or otherwise identify them so that scientists
>As for gene drift, the passage of strange diseases and so forth, that's
>been kicked around for a long time, without much in the way of useful results.
>I think inventing some rare little plants that the Monarchs might eat is
>far-fetched, ridiculous, nonsense ... but the response that first we
>should show some harm, and then the butterfly releasers will cease and
>desist ... that makes me scream and retch and look about for more virgins
>I wish this discussion did not keep rolling in the uncharted swamps. I
>wish (we're just killing time until the next Ice Age anyway) we could try
>to achieve a position of enlightened self-interest, and figure out whether
>it is better for a world ecosystem, to have kids releasing butterflies (at
>random? under severe regulation?) or not. And why aren't they raising them
>in their own gardens?
>Me, I think everybody should plant native plants where appropriate,
>provide habitat for whatever critters are compatible with your lifestyle
>(butterflies, yes; mosquitoes, in moderation; dragonflies, why certainly)
>and enjoy life as much as God or Nature permits, in between the shitstorm
>that is our existence.
>I think it would be more fun to release totally improbable butterflies,
>such as the Zebra Longwing (in the North, of course), which will show up
>and surprise people and vanish when it turns cold. Then, when somebody
>reports one, you *know* it's a release.
>Yes, the bug will never experience the fulfillment of marriage and
>children. I cry a single tear.
>Alternatively, we could take Palmetto bugs, gild them, cover them with
>glitter and fling them into the air. Tell people it's lucky to have one
>land on you, and watch the thrilled and happy looks on the faces of the
>children ... naw, I guess not.
>I think if you apply to this problem the simple question, "What would
>Jesus do?" you wind up with the simple answer "Get a life."
>Hope this helps.
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