US standardized name reference

[Dameron, Wanda]

Dear Ron,

Am assuming LBJ is use of the common acronym of "little brown job;" sss
is likely Silver-spotted Skipper found throughout the east;  next time
to make name conversions either way, suggest simplyfying your efforts by
using your keyboard 'control' and 'find' keys simultaneously on the
Standardized name list at: http://www.naba.org/pubs/enames.html

						Cheers, Wanda


Ron Gatrelle wrote:
> 
> A week ago I got back about midnight from 12 hours of driving (total round
> trip) and 9 hours of doing Leps survey work for the Forest Service. It had
> been nearly 40 hours since I had had any sleep. Tired but wired, I decided
> to post a mere 9 species list on the carolina leps group. Knowing that most
> of the folks there like to use common names (something that I am just not
> in the habit of doing after 40 + years of working with butterflies) I dug
> out a book and furnished 5 of the nine with common names (one does not have
> a common name).  Well I got this nicely worded, but still terse,
> intolerant, and condescending post the next day asking me to please use
> common names with the scientific ones.  I wrote the person back that I try
> to do this as much as possible to be considerate of those not familiar with
> the correct (scientific) names. I told them I was a little perplexed by
> their post as I HAD furnished common names for most of the species - and
> went to extra effort to do so.
> 
> I bit my tongue on wanting to ask if they ever wrote the people who only
> post common names asking them to please use the scientific ones also for
> the benefit of those who may not be familiar with the common ones. I did
> tell the individual that one problem I do have with common names is that
> many of the ones I know and have used for 40 years have now been changed to
> whatever the new groups want to call them - especially those which were
> named after collectors. (It is not that they were named after a person, but
> after a collector that they don't like.)
> 
> Over the last couple of days some posts have come in that list species by
> neither common or correct names. I have seen this several times before and
> today have just had all of it I can take. The last two from two differnet
> persons were:  "lots of SSS skippers.."  and  " a LBJ skipper that.."  Who
> is supposed to know what these are other than some snoby little dumbded
> down click that likes to slam those who dare to use correct names? If this
> isn't a one way street I don't know what is.
> 
> God forbid that I should email one of these individuals or GROUPS and ever
> suggest they be considerate and provide a-common-names-unfamiliar old timer
> like me with names I know  - or that one of the many subscribers to these
> lists from a foreign country dare to ask what the heck an LBJ skipper is.
> The only LBJ they probably know is a dead US president.
> 
> This post is not about the use of common names or correct names. It is
> about a whole buss load of people who are just plain rude. They love to
> dish it out but can't take it. It is their way or the else. They are a
> majority and don't give a rats behind how others think (in scientific
> names), or what others like (collecting). They are subscribed to
> internationally open, public, chat groups and demand that everyone else use
> and understand their terms and only practice those activities that they
> approve of.  And if anyone turns the tables and points the mirror back at
> them, these cry out bloody murder and declare that anyone who questions
> them must be enemies of the environment.
> 
> Of course, on the other hand, I can understand why they would want to say
> and write GSF rather than Great Spangled Fritillary, or GBS rather than
> Golden Banded Skipper. I don't say those common names either - they are too
> long. It is much easier for me to just say and write cybele or cellus. But
> that, is obviously either too difficult for them to say or understand - in
> spite of the fact that many of them are lawyers, doctors, and college
> grads.
> Ron
> 
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