Red-spotted Admirals??

Grkovich, Alex agrkovich at tmpeng.com
Mon Jul 30 07:13:33 EDT 2001


I don't know why some are "pandering" so much to "birders" coming into
"butterflying". What on earth is going on?

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Kenn Kaufman [SMTP:kennk at ix.netcom.com]
> Sent:	Saturday, July 28, 2001 1:15 PM
> To:	HpAzures at aol.com; Leps-l at lists.yale.edu
> Subject:	Re: Red-spotted Admirals??
> 
> 
> Harry Pavulaan wrote:
> 
> > NABA has revised the common name of Limenitis arthemis astyanax to
> > "Red-spotted Admiral".  I presume this was done in the name of
> standardizing
> > genus names.  Thus, all Limenitis (correctly Basilarchia?) are now
> > "Admirals".  However, I wonder how many newcomers will now confuse Red
> > Admirals with Red-spotted Admirals?
> 
> My comments are not meant as a defense of NABA (their latest
> checklist strikes me as a step backwards in many ways) but as
> a clarification.  I just looked at the list, and actually they apply the
> name "Red-spotted Admiral" only to Limenitis arthemis in a
> larger sense.  They continue to apply "Red-spotted Purple" to
> L. a. astyanax, and "White Admiral" to L. a. arthemis.   Not stated,
> but presumed, I suppose, is that L. a. rubrofasciata would also
> be a White Admiral, and L. a. arizonensis would also be a
> Red-spotted Purple, under this system.   In practice, the name
> "Red-spotted Admiral" wouldn't apply to anything we would see
> in the field or in the trays.   The problem with having such a name
> at all is that birders coming into "butterflying" bring along a
> prejudice against using English names for subspecies, and
> they may think it's "correct" to use the larger group name for
> anything in this complex that they see.  ---  Anyone on this list
> who has influence at NABA might suggest that their members
> be encouraged to continue to use the more precise names for
> these taxa, and to not use "Red-spotted Admiral" at all.
> 
> Kenn Kaufman
> Tucson, AZ
> kennk at ix.netcom.com
> 
> 
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