Fwd: York/Rock Hill Butterfly Count?
Heath, Fred
Fred.Heath at power-one.com
Wed Jun 6 18:57:42 EDT 2001
Dear Chris,
I know you have no love for NABA. But as a member of the NABA BoD,
as well as the rules committee for the the counts, I can tell you there is
absolutely nothing that would preclude you or anyone else that matter from
submitting a count to NABA even it it was strictly a count of netted and
dead butterflies. Would someone be offended? Maybe. But I for one welcome
the publication of as much data (including hearsay, which us birders have
been using for years to compile data since folks became unhappy with those
noisy shotguns) as we can get.
I would assume that even if you won't send your Austin Count data to
NABA as part of the official count process that you will at least publish it
here on Leps -L so we can all share the fruits of your yearly endeavors.
Thanks.
---Best regards, Fred
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris J. Durden [SMTP:drdn at mail.utexas.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:02 AM
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> Subject: Re: Fwd: York/Rock Hill Butterfly Count?
>
> There is nothing wrong with a butterfly count that takes voucher
> specimens!
> The North American Counts started by the Xerces Society took voucher
> specimens. Unfortunately Xerces dropped the ball when they turned the
> counts over to NABA. Only a presumptuous egotist can presume to know all
> the species to be found in a count area by sight!
> There is at least one Xerces Count that has continued since 1981. It
> does not bother reporting to NABA because the data are supported by
> voucher
> specimens and the organizer does not want to offend those poor misguided
> souls who are content to calibrate hearsay.
> ....................Chris Durden
>
>
> At 08:42 AM 5/26/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >Here is the entire announcement that prompted Ron Gatrelle's comments.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
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> >Subject: Re: York/Rock Hill Butterfly Count?
> >To: research at hiltonpond.org, carolinaleps at duke.edu
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> >Bill and other Carolina Butterfliers:
> >
> >A new butterfly count in the Rock Hill area sounds like a great idea! The
> >Carolina Butterfly Society organizes and sponsors quite a few butterfly
> >counts throughout the Carolinas. We would be pleased to help coordinate
> and
> >publicize a York/Rock Hill Butterfly Count. Not only do we report on our
> >counts in our quarterly newsletter and website, count compilers also
> submit
> >results to the North American Butterfly Association (NABA) which
> publishes an
> >annual continent-wide compilation. Beginners are always welcome on these
> >counts, and we have several very good butterfliers who enjoy counts and
> like
> >helping newcomers learn about butterflies.
> >
> >While it wouldn't be necessary for the organizers to be members of the
> >Carolina Butterfly Society, we would welcome you to join, and would
> encourage
> >you to participate in other counts and activities to see how they are
> >conducted. Membership, which runs from Jan. 1 through Dec. 31, is quite
> >modest: $10 per individual, $15 for families, and $25 for organizations.
> >
> >One point that you should be aware of is that we are an organization that
> >promotes butterfly watching, gardening, and education in much the same
> way
> >that the Audubon Society does for birds. (In fact, many of us are Audubon
> >members, too.) Nets and collecting are not allowed on our counts, field
> >trips, and garden walks, though we do welcome photography to help confirm
> >butterfly identity. There are other excellent organizations that would be
> >more appropriate for insect collecting.
> >
> >I will be happy to send a membership application to those interested in
> >joining, or you can download one from our website. There is also a
> calendar
> >of trips and counts posted on our site, and you might want to look at
> some of
> >the excellent butterfly photography in the photo galleries while you're
> >visiting. Here's the URL:
> >
> >http://www.carolinabutterflysociety.org/
> >
> >Dennis Burnette
> >Membership Chair
> >Carolina Butterfly Society
> >burnetted at aol.com
> >
> >In a message dated 5/25/01 12:06:13 AM, research at hiltonpond.org writes:
> >
> ><<
> >HI . . .
> >
> >Some of you are aware there is a York/Rock Hill SC Christmas Bird
> >Count that centers west of Rock Hill and includes Hilton Pond Center
> >for Piedmont Natural History.
> >
> >I'd like to propose that there also be a new butterfly count started
> >this summer for that area. Unfortunately, I don't have the expertise
> >to conduct such a count myself, but would be happy to scout
> >appropriate counting locales and guide folks to them.
> >
> >The count circle includes a wide diversity of habitat and is begging
> >for a butterfly inventory. A detailed description and map of the
> >circle are at
> ><http://www.hiltonpond.org/ChristmasCountMain.html>http://www.hiltonpond.
> org/C
> >
> >hristmasCountMain.html
> >.
> >
> >Is there anyone out there that would be interested in helping
> >initiate a York/Rock Hill Butterfly Count sometime in July 2001?
> >
> >
> >Optimistically,
> >
> >BILL
> >--
> >
> >**********
> >
> >RESEARCH PROGRAM
> >BILL HILTON JR. Executive Director
> >Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History
> >1432 DeVinney Road, York, South Carolina 29745 USA
> >research at hiltonpond.org, (803) 684-5852, eFax: (503) 218-0845
>
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