BUGS: RE: Red Admirals on track

[Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX]

There is no open season on government or any other scientists. maybe just a
joke that I do not see the humor in. I see no humor in an 'open season' on
other people. But there are people on this planet who find it difficult to
accept that there are differing views on most topics. And I guess there are
people who are disturbed by the notion that scientists are fallible human
beings. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Johnson [mailto:johnsondl at EM.AGR.CA]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:23 AM
To: Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX; leps-l at lists.yale.edu; monarch at saber.net
Cc: albertabugs at majordomo.srv.ualberta.ca
Subject: Re: BUGS: RE: Red Admirals on track


Announcement: Open season on government scientists.  No bag limit.  Hunters
should confirm key identification markings (including presence of personal
values and salaries) before harvesting.




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  Dan L. Johnson

  JohnsonDL at em.agr.ca          fax (403) 382-3156
  
  http://res2.agr.ca/lethbridge/scitech/dlj/johnsond.htm

>>> "Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX" <Norbert.Kondla at gems3.gov.bc.ca> Tuesday, May
15, 2001 10:37:24 AM >>>
Why indeed do people make such incorrect statements as referenced by Paul in
the note below ?? Only the people who make such statements know for sure.
The rest of us can only try to construct a plausible explanation. My disgust
with the baseless hysteria about butterfly releases is a matter of public
record. I would be happy to reconsider my view if presented with some
evidence/science. My best guess to explain interesting and incorrect
statements is that even people paid to do science (paid with tax dollars
from folks who earn a living from natural resources) are fallible human
beings who also have personal values and agendas . They are of course
perfectly welcome to pursue their agendas and values and to make incorrect
statements. PS. the red admiral naturally finds its way to even northern
Canada. I have no books in front of me but I do recall finding one at about
59 degrees north latitude in extreme northern British Columbia
double PS. I have not seen any red admirals yet this season in southern
British Columbia but this is definitely an invasion year here for the
Vanessa cardui.
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Cherubini [mailto:monarch at saber.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:03 AM
To: leps-l at lists.yale.edu 
Subject: Re: Red Admirals on track


Martha Rosett Lutz wrote:
 
> Do Red Admirals like Gatorade?  Would they get any important nutrients
from
> it? 

Yes, commercial butterfly farmers commonly use Gatorade to feed the
butterflies
prior to shipping them off to brides. Speaking of butterfly releases, 
the recent reports of large northward movements of Red Admirals in the
southern, central and northern USA plus into southern Canada reminds
me of a curious statement on the NABA website about releases
authored by Paul Opler, Bob Pyle, Jeff Glassberg, and Jim Tuttle  
These authors wrote:

"Shipping Red Admirals, is particularly inappropriate
because they are not naturally found over much of the United States."

These scientists are at the top of their field so why do they make
statements
like this?

Paul Cherubini

 
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