BUGS: RE: Red Admirals on track

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Norbert, more and more I am appreciating your posts. Keep 'em coming.

Jim Taylor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX" <Norbert.Kondla at gems3.gov.bc.ca>
To: "'Dan Johnson'" <johnsondl at EM.AGR.CA>; <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>;
<monarch at saber.net>
Cc: <albertabugs at majordomo.srv.ualberta.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: BUGS: RE: Red Admirals on track


> There is no open season on government or any other scientists. maybe just
a
> joke that I do not see the humor in. I see no humor in an 'open season' on
> other people. But there are people on this planet who find it difficult to
> accept that there are differing views on most topics. And I guess there
are
> people who are disturbed by the notion that scientists are fallible human
> beings.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Johnson [mailto:johnsondl at EM.AGR.CA]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:23 AM
> To: Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX; leps-l at lists.yale.edu; monarch at saber.net
> Cc: albertabugs at majordomo.srv.ualberta.ca
> Subject: Re: BUGS: RE: Red Admirals on track
>
>
> Announcement: Open season on government scientists.  No bag limit.
Hunters
> should confirm key identification markings (including presence of personal
> values and salaries) before harvesting.
>
>
>
>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>
>   Dan L. Johnson
>
>   JohnsonDL at em.agr.ca          fax (403) 382-3156
>
>   http://res2.agr.ca/lethbridge/scitech/dlj/johnsond.htm
>
> >>> "Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX" <Norbert.Kondla at gems3.gov.bc.ca> Tuesday, May
> 15, 2001 10:37:24 AM >>>
> Why indeed do people make such incorrect statements as referenced by Paul
in
> the note below ?? Only the people who make such statements know for sure.
> The rest of us can only try to construct a plausible explanation. My
disgust
> with the baseless hysteria about butterfly releases is a matter of public
> record. I would be happy to reconsider my view if presented with some
> evidence/science. My best guess to explain interesting and incorrect
> statements is that even people paid to do science (paid with tax dollars
> from folks who earn a living from natural resources) are fallible human
> beings who also have personal values and agendas . They are of course
> perfectly welcome to pursue their agendas and values and to make incorrect
> statements. PS. the red admiral naturally finds its way to even northern
> Canada. I have no books in front of me but I do recall finding one at
about
> 59 degrees north latitude in extreme northern British Columbia
> double PS. I have not seen any red admirals yet this season in southern
> British Columbia but this is definitely an invasion year here for the
> Vanessa cardui.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Cherubini [mailto:monarch at saber.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:03 AM
> To: leps-l at lists.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: Red Admirals on track
>
>
> Martha Rosett Lutz wrote:
>
> > Do Red Admirals like Gatorade?  Would they get any important nutrients
> from
> > it?
>
> Yes, commercial butterfly farmers commonly use Gatorade to feed the
> butterflies
> prior to shipping them off to brides. Speaking of butterfly releases,
> the recent reports of large northward movements of Red Admirals in the
> southern, central and northern USA plus into southern Canada reminds
> me of a curious statement on the NABA website about releases
> authored by Paul Opler, Bob Pyle, Jeff Glassberg, and Jim Tuttle
> These authors wrote:
>
> "Shipping Red Admirals, is particularly inappropriate
> because they are not naturally found over much of the United States."
>
> These scientists are at the top of their field so why do they make
> statements
> like this?
>
> Paul Cherubini
>
>
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