The Royal Society and religion

[Patrick Foley]

Alex,

Heaven forfend!

As a child, I once mentioned that my grandparents came from "Great Britain", C.
S. Lewis' "country". My father, whose home was apparently an IRA hotel ( I think
the FBI are now monitoring this email), thanked God that my grandmother was not
alive to hear me say it.

As, for foolishness ... not even heaven can keep us from that. I think of
religions as beautiful butterflies themselves, fascinating, but unusually
deadly.

Patrick

"Grkovich, Alex" wrote:

> I don't believe we were speaking of religion. As your own countryman (C.S.
> Lewis) once wrote: "Heaven is Reality, it is not a state of mind. Everything
> that is Real is Haevenly." I was not speaking of religion, I was speaking of
> a warm and loving person, and of reality. Truly, you sound foolish to me.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Foley [SMTP:patfoley at csus.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:03 PM
> > To:   agrkovich at tmpeng.com
> > Cc:   'Ron Gatrelle'; Leps-l
> > Subject:      The Royal Society and religion
> >
> > Dear fellow followers of the silky and silkless scalinesses,
> >
> > As we seem to be in the mode of testifying, I would like to add my
> > testimony.
> >
> > I believe The Royal Society of London was wise to insist on the avoidance
> > of
> > religious discussions.
> >
> > Patrick Foley
> >
> >
> >
> > "Grkovich, Alex" wrote:
> >
> > > Added a comma for clarification. I didn't mean to make it sound as if
> > the
> > > Creator loves Himself. He does, however, Love His Son and all those who
> > keep
> > > His Commandments (or rather, even attempt to).
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Grkovich, Alex [SMTP:agrkovich at tmpeng.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:29 PM
> > > > To:   'Ron Gatrelle'; Leps-l
> > > > Subject:      RE: MR. Clench
> > > >
> > > > I never knew Harry Clench, but I did know Paul Grey (and his wife). I
> > can
> > > > add one comment based upon my having known Mr. Grey: That his
> > knowledge
> > > > didn't have to come from a piece of paper; rather it came from and
> > grew
> > > > out
> > > > of a deep love and respect for the Things which the Creator of the
> > > > Universe
> > > > has given us for our Edification [AG]  , (comma inserted here) and for
> > the
> > > > Creator Himself, and also out
> > > > of a deep love for those of whose with whom he came into contact and
> > came
> > > > to
> > > > know.
> > > >
> > > > Alex
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:       Ron Gatrelle [SMTP:gatrelle at tils-ttr.org]
> > > > > Sent:       Monday, October 22, 2001 1:12 PM
> > > > > To: Leps-l
> > > > > Subject:    MR. Clench
> > > > >
> > > > > Both Chris Durden and Ken Philip recently posted that one of the
> > > > > influencers (mentors?) in their entomological lives was Mr. Harry
> > > > Clench.
> > > > > He was very influential in my development as a taxonomist.  And a
> > great
> > > > > many others on this list and elsewhere will say dittos.
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry never did get around to getting a PhD.  It didn't matter to
> > anyone
> > > > I
> > > > > know.  His expertise was not based on a piece of paper it was based
> > on
> > > > > what
> > > > > he knew - both learned and discovered.
> > > > >
> > > > > In age, Harry was younger then Ken and Chris and older than I.  Yet
> > he
> > > > > influenced all.  There are very few today who work with butterflies
> > of
> > > > his
> > > > > caliber in my opinion.  A couple I can think of we don't hear much
> > from
> > > > > anymore.  Cliff Ferris is one who comes to mind. I hear he is
> > dealing
> > > > > mostly with moths now, and because of past flaming no longer has an
> > > > > interest in publishing his understandings of butterfly systematics (
> > ? )
> > > > > If
> > > > > so, too bad for the rest of us.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron Gatrelle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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