Alternative meaning of Mariposa
neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk
Sat Apr 13 18:39:53 EDT 2002
On Thursday 11 April 2002 06:29 pm, MexicoDoug at aol.com wrote:
> Dear P.s,
> If this is your way to come in contact with nature, I see nothing 'mental'
> about it, as suggested, and the only pervert so far has been Neil, in the
> sense that he seems to assign "Mariposa" meanings it doesn't have (In all
> fairness, it was reputed to have this perverted meaning by a recent book
> which may or may not be Neil's source).
Well I seem to recall I have encountered that usage of "Mariposa" on several
occasions on the various lists. Before using the pun I checked google where
there are a multitude of references using the same meaning. (It isn't
homophobia on my part. As far as I am concerned some men have been like this
since we first evolved in Africa. It is entirely their affair who they fall
in love with. I like women myself.)
This is not to say that you are wrong. I have encountered this same thing
home here. I am Welsh. Here in Wales we have our own language. It is totally
different to English and its closest living relative is Breton in France. It
is more distantly related to the 3 Gaelic languages.
In addition to this many people speak English in a very peculiar way using
loan words, literal translations and odd constructions.
However just this morning I was looking at a rerun of an old Sci-fi show
from the 70's Irritatingly being about Wales It had to be set down a coal
mine! :-). But the scriptwriters were obviously English in that they used a
number of well known mythical dialect constructions which we do not use. This
happens all the time and there are plenty of real dialect features they could
All joking aside it I always like to know some of the language of a country
I am visiting and it is useful to know if a word I might use does have an
alternative meaning that might be rude.
For example Higgins and Riley's now superseded standard work on European
Butterflies gives Le Grand Porte-queue for the Swallowtail Papilio machaon.
I have always been a little nervous of using this name, since whilst "queue"
litterally means "tail", it has another crude slang meaning which you can
probably all guess.
> And the fact that some Lepsters
> are patrolling the list for females simply indicates they are in need of
> something they may not get enough of...
I don't think any of us needs to patrol for females on the list. It was just
an amusing image for some or an opportunity for a bilingual pun in my case.
Neil Jones- Neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk http://www.butterflyguy.com/
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