[leps-talk] MALE x FEMALE emergence

Grkovich, Alex agrkovich at tmpeng.com
Wed May 22 16:28:59 EDT 2002


This is interesting (meaning the occurrence of mixed pairs) because here in
New England there appears that there might be a certain amount of
hybridization taking place. Among approx. 100 specimens of cybele, aphrodite
and atlantis, I have a few that appear to have mixed morphological
characters and seem surprisingly difficult to positively identify. And they
do congregate here in mixed species and mixed pairs, extensively. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX [SMTP:Norbert.Kondla at gems3.gov.bc.ca]
> Sent:	Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:09 PM
> To:	lepsl (E-mail)
> Subject:	FW: [leps-talk] MALE x FEMALE emergence
> 
> Ditto re. Chris's observations with the added observation that the
> easisest
> way to find Speyeria is to drive slowly along back roads, or even
> highways,
> and stop at patches of thistle (Cirsium). don't kill yourself with
> strenuous
> hikes; let the mountain come to Mohammed :-) There is a lot to be said for
> the pleasures of ditch-dawdling :-)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris J. Durden [mailto:drdn at mail.utexas.edu] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:01 PM
> To: leps-l at lists.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [leps-talk] MALE x FEMALE emergence
> 
> 
> *Speyeria* are often gregarious and gather in large numbers of mixed 
> species and mixed sexes at sources of abundant nectar such as *Apocynum* 
> and Spotted Knapweed in the middle Rocky Mountains, or at Milkweed and 
> Dogwood in Ontario and Pennsylvania. In large congregations in Montana it 
> is frequent to find mating pairs, and once in a while these are mixed 
> species pairs or apparent hybrid backcross pairs.
> .........................Chris Durden
> 
> At 05:44 PM 5/21/2002 -0300, you wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >Thanks for the tips. The one regarding female dispersal (or dispersion?) 
> >is quite interesting, indeed I've been always thaught that females keep 
> >themselves near the hostplants. But it is obvious that, may be, is not at
> 
> >all like that.
> >
> >As for Speyeria... my question: are they gregarious?? - european big 
> >fritillaries (Argynnis, Pandoriana, Mesoacidalia) are not gregarious at 
> >all, as far as I know.
> >
> >Riodinids are particularly known for frequenting the same spots year
> after 
> >year, sometimes at particular timetable (see C. Callaghan), so it's 
> >particularly notorious and striking the Euselasia sinchronism.
> >
> >
> >I've never tried to rear gregarious Saturniidae, but now I have some 30 
> >Lonomia (yes! the KILLER bug) pupae... eager to see what happens, but I 
> >bet females will show up first.
> >
> >Thank you once again.
> >
> >Jorge
> >
> >P.S. I did confirm with a friend doing a revision of Actinote, that in
> all 
> >species he has breed up today, the males came first... and by all means, 
> >they left a squamous "plug" in the female 'ductus bursae' (no, definitely
> 
> >not a scientific binomial name, sorry!) after the ... ummhhh how should I
> 
> >say... copula.
> >
> >
> >Jorge
> 
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