Mosquito control No Mo

Stanley A. Gorodenski stan_gorodenski at asualumni.org
Sun May 8 15:53:54 EDT 2005



Ron Gatrelle wrote:

>Stan went back to the religious matters as previously and sarcastically
>posted here by myself some weeks ago.  
>

Ron,
I hope you aren't saying I am the one to blame for you bringing up 
religion in this thread because that was never my intention and I am not 
to blame. I never have discussed religion with you in public, except 
years ago when I asked in one of my posts that you keep religion out of 
Leps-L. You just said I went back to religious matters you previously 
posted, but the post I was refering to, the one you posted on April 7th, 
makes no mention of religion. The entire post is copied below and you 
will see there is no religion in it at all. It very clearly states your 
position on Man's place in nature. It was the contradiction between this 
position and your justification for wiping out high levels of 
mosquitoes, cockroaches, and so on, that I was addressing in this thread.
Stan

START OF PREVIOUS POST BY YOU ON APRIL 7TH:
This was speculated to account for the difference in parasite burden between
populations that migrate and those that do not, and that habitat destruction
and climate change will increase the prevalence of parasites.
Stan
***************

First, this is political propaganda not science.   Parasite, migrate,
habitat, climate... SPECULATED... WILL.   Always fascinating how speculation
turns into an absolute - X specualtion becomes WILL in the same sentence.
The sky has been falling ever since Silent Spring shouted fire in the
theater.  I don't know if it is possible to know the truth of these things
any more because all the valid science in so interwoven with purely activist
"studies" and "data".   Highly educated and skilled people can conduct a
study to produce whatever convincing data they want.   "A recent study
shows..."  Millions of them on everything imaginable, and so many in direct
conflict with others.    Law of Study: for every study there is an equal but
opposite conclusion.

Second, even if true it is simply just part of nature = natural process.

Climate change is neutral, its functions work just as much against a disease
/ parasite / plant / animal etc. as it can for it.   Let's also not forget
that many Lepidoptera are "insect pests".  Just like a weed is defined as
being any plant growing where _humans_ don't want it, a "pest" organism is
anything humans don't want in there sphere of existence.  If Monarchs fed on
corn and not milkweed, the USDA would be looking FOR natural enemies (like
parasites) to help _us_ control them.   And the Mexican gov. would cut down
the forest to save their farmer's crops.  And if we found that some cancer
was caused by a chemical in Monarch wing scales falling off was they fly -
we would have the Monarch Eradication Cancer Campaign of the Americas
(MECCA).

Another perspective is this.  People who are parasite hobbyists/ watchers/
collectors don't want to see their favorite organisms harmed or plotted
against for eradication.  "Save the parasites",  "Save the ticks", is just
as pragmatically valuable as "Save the whales".  In fact without disease,
parasites, vultures, roaches, mosquitoes, mold and on and on the world would
be a very imbalanced unhealthy and dying thing.   We'd have to go to the pet
store to by the garin to feed our mice and mice to feed our snakes and
snakes to feed our owels -- and monarchs to feed our parasites so we could
grow more grain to feed our mice....

At this point someone always chimes in that "humans" are the problem because
we are bringing about _unnatural_ changes.  This is the silliest thing
anyone can say because it renders humans as not being a part of nature -
puts us outside nature = natural process.  We are just as natural as any
other organism and we can do things that shift the ecological balance just
like anything else - from volcanoes to rain forests to meteors to milk.

Ron Gatrelle
END OF PREVIOUS POST BY YOU ON APRIL 7TH.




 
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