Climate Change
Roger C. KENDRICK
hkmoths at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Dec 11 22:09:25 EST 2007
JP,
well commented.
Whilst climate change is something that most creatures can probably adapt to (on the news yesterday there was evidence that polar bears survived the last major interglacial period, with mean global temperatures over 6 deg. C higher than now and much higher sea levels), habitat destruction is still going to be the primary cause of most species extinction. All the talk and focus is now on climate change, which is only a symptom of the way humanity abuses and destroys the rest of life on earth for its own very short sighted gain. In the media's eye, habitat destruction is not the big issue it ought to be. :(
Roger.
Roger C. KENDRICK Ph.D.
Senior Conservation Officer, Fauna Conservation,
Kadoorie Farm & Botanic Garden, Hong Kong
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C & R Wildlife (sole proprietor), Tai Po, Hong Kong
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----- Original Message ----
From: JPPelham <zapjammer at verizon.net>
To: Leps List <LEPS-L at lists.yale.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:14:47 AM
Subject: Climate Change
All,
I have been staying strictly out of the Global Temperature debate; it
has been and remains a contentious and fruitless discussion on
list-serves. However, after reviewing the various exchanges and visiting some
of the suggested websites, my conscience will not allow me to refrain
any longer. There are obviously agendas at play. I cannot fathom all of
them, nor will I make the attempt.
Global Warming/Cooling, CO2, Hot/Cool Sun...whatever. A majority of
scientists studying earthâs climate are concerned over the potential
effects that humans are having on the climate. I think this statement is
beyond dispute. As an example of how people try to negate this fact, I
heard one soul proclaim that upwards of 30% of the scientists at a
'Bali Symposium' refused to sign a declaration of consensus on the
subject, demonstrating considerable dissent. I later discovered that these
recalcitrant scientists were upset that the measures discussed were too
lenient! Was this is a simple oversight on the part of this poor soul,
or blatant misrepresentation for the purpose of misleading people?
This happens so often that I suspect an intent to defraud.
People do misrepresent themselves. They can also be misrepresented.
Both are lies, but apparently, 'we' are becoming immune to dishonesty.
It seems to me that we shall not know who is 'right' as to whether
humans influence climate for at least half a century. But there is
something unsaid in all of these arguments. There is something that disturbs
me about what seems a widespread anti environmentalism. It is possible
that it has something to do with these agendas I cannot fathom.
While cruising the internet, I read some incredibly absurd arguments
from people who seem supremely qualified to post them. There is a lot of
that going around these days. As a result of my incredulity, I formed
some questions. I think the answers are obvious enough, but I would
also guess that they will generate great indignance.
1. Can there ever be too many people on the planet? Is ever increasing
human population growth not only conceivable but preferable?
2. Can 'Human Progress' and development of resources expand
indefinitely? Is there no end to human potential?
3. Is it demonstrable that the human presence on our planet does not
cause stress to environments and the diversity of organisms that dwell
within them?
4. Can a secular argument be generated that humans are, collectively,
'better' than any other creature?
Can anybody examine our natural world and find evidence that any
creature is better than any other? How can it be possible to show that we
humans are superior creatures, especially in light of our ephemeral
existence? One cannot merely cite our 'accomplishments' as evidence of our
superiority. A complex creature is not 'better' than another simply
as a product of its complexity. Is an ant better than a solitary wasp?
The reason I exclude spiritual arguments seems obvious. I know that
there are spiritual arguments for and against, just as in the secular
world. However, the sources for spiritual support of an argument are not
subject to the same scrutiny that secular facts can be. They are <de
facto> unassailable.
In my nearly 60 years on this planet, I have seen one after another of
my favorite places developed or destroyed. This has been incremental
and, sorrily, I do not see an end in sight. Many of you of similar
experience (as old as me!) will note the same. The only defense I can
distill from the many arguments in support of human progress, is that
people come first, all else is (apparently) subservient to our needs. If
this is so, if people are actually so precious, then it would seem that
we ought to consider what the next several centuries will present us.
Instead, we plow straight ahead, blissfully unaware of consequences.
If incremental development and human progress continue at the same pace
as they have, there will be no room for e.g. butterflies & moths, save
those that can adapt to our environments.
That concerns me.
JPPelham
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