Fulvia X Theona

Hank Brodkin hbrodkin at cox.net
Mon Jun 7 16:50:55 EDT 2010

Thanks for the plant ID!
The cyneas I have seen are all from above Schelite to Sawmill on the Garden
Canyon Road and at Beatty's in Miller Canyon.
I have seen one fulvia in Garden well above Schelite.  I tried to make it
into a cyneas - but it definitely was fulvia.
I have never seen cyneas as low as our place (5000').
Hank Brodkin
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Subject: Re: Fulvia X Theona

In a message dated 6/7/2010 11:02:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
hbrodkin at cox.net writes:

A couple of questions - Can both of these species use the same paintbrush
and does anyone know the species of this plant.  And does anyone know if
these species ever hybridize?  Also do either of these ever hybridize with
C. cynea (Black Checkerspot)?

The shrub is Castilleja lanata. They might hybridize but have not seen any
specimens to indicate that they do.
As far as I have seen cyneas and fulvia do not hybridize and remain
reproductively isolated. They rarely are found together despite the close
(and I mean really close) proximity to each other and literature reports to
the contrary. I have only ever seen two fulvia in Garden Canyon. Once there
were single adults of both fulvia and cyneas on Mimosa ten yards apart near
Scheelite Canyon. That is the only time in 30 years of experience with these
two that I have seen them together. I wonder if cyneas doesn't occasionally
wander down to Crump Hill? I almost doubt they do since you don't have it
from your yard yet do you?
Jim B

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