$0 funding for State Wildlife Grants proposed in FY '11 Continuing Resolution

Tue Feb 22 15:33:30 EST 2011

We need think and act both globally and regionally if we are not to destroy huge amounts of more biodiversity, native ecosystems, and natural habitats in the near future. America today is severely overpopulatated in terms of its consumption of natural resources and land. This overpopulation not only negatively impacts American biodiversity, native ecosystems, and natural habitats but also those in other nations in the world. Why any environmentalist would therefore think that America can keep on rapidly adding to its human population without doing even more massive environmental harm is rather puzzling.

Human overpopulation must be dealt with both in the United States and the rest of the World.

I am sorry I do not have a pet peeve with illegal immigration. The facts are that the only reason America keeps growing rapidly in terms of human population are directly traceable to illegal immigration, excessively high levels of legal immigration, and the excessively high levels of fertility of those immigrants.

Liberal democrats along with big business republicans are the two groups of political elites principally responsible for rapid American population growth since they effectively make a joke of enforcement of our immigration laws and push constantly for irresponsibly high levels of legal immigration.

Roger

>
> I was not talking about American overpopulation but global
> overpopulation. Most major environmental problems are global in scope.
> The provincial nature of your question is disturbing. If the population
> of the US were to be indefinitely stable at 1965 levels and the world
> population were to increase at the present rate, we, and everyone else,
> would be doomed. We need to think beyond our own borders. The 19th
> century idea that we can hide behind our oceans doesn't work and hasn't
> for about a century now.
>
> Your personal pet peeve may be illegal immigration but that doesn't make
> it the root cause of all the world's problems and demonizing Democrats
> isn't going to be the answer either.
>
>
> Ken
> On 2/21/2011 10:53 AM, Roger Kuhlman wrote:
>> What does illegal immigration have to do with American overpopulation? Illegal immigration is one of the main reasons why the American human population is growing so quickly. It is a pretty well known demographic fact that if illegal immigration and legal immigration had remained at pre-1965 levels [immigration law was greatly expanded that year by a Democratic Congress and President], the American population would now be converging on population stability in the area of 240 to 250 million people. If that had happened, America's native ecosystems and natural habitats would have been in far better shape today than they are.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> ________________________________
>>> What in the world does illegal immigration have to do with
>>> overpopulation? What will eventually destroy the planet is too many
>>> people, regardless of what country they are living in!
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should stick to butterflies.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> On 02/19/11, Roger Kuhlman wrote:
>>>
>>> Well what is their position of stopping illegal immigration, amnesty
>>> for illegal aliens, and reducing the excessively high levels of legal
>>> immigration. Just saying you are concerned about population growth but
>>> not be willing to take any concrete, effective steps to first slow,
>>> then stop and finally reduce population levels by natural means to
>>> long-term ecologically sustainable levels is nothing but an empty
>>> gesture.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:27:23 -0800
>>>> From: kgs at lclark.edu
>>>> To: neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk
>>>> CC: leps-l at lists.yale.edu
>>>> Subject: Re: $0 funding for State Wildlife Grants proposed in FY '11
>>> Continuing Resolution
>>>> One of my favorite environmental groups is the Center for Biological
>>>> Diversity, and they are anything but silent on overpopulation. check out
>>>> their website (and condom program!).
>>>>
>>>> Ken Strothkamp
>>>>
>>>> On 2/17/2011 1:42 PM, Neil Jones wrote:
>>>>> On 17/02/2011 21:18, Roger Kuhlman wrote:
>>>>>> Why is it that only now that Obama wants to fully fund the Land and
>>>>>> Water Conservation Fund? Something is fishy here methinks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our country has a major problem with excessive spending and a huge
>>>>>> national debt. The US can't keep on borrowing and spending. It has
>>>>>> got to stop since this practice is unsustainable. Frightening facts:
>>>>>> over $14 trillion of accumulated federal debt, $1.6 trillion federal
>>>>>> deficit for FY2011, expected federal deficits of $1 trillion for the
>>>>>> next few years, Unfunded liabilities for Social Security, Medicare,
>>>>>> and government pensions $60+ trillion, unknown huge additional
>>>>>> liabilities for Medicaid and Obama's new healthcare entitlements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to know why concerned, major environmental and
>>>>>> conservation organizations are not pushing to stop human population
>>>>>> growth in America. Human overpopulation is one of the two most
>>>>>> powerful drivers of environmental problems but these groups are
>>>>>> virtually silent on the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger
>>>>> It is not the size of the population that is so much the problem but
>>>>> the consumption per head of population. If everyone on Earth consumed
>>>>> like
>>>>> the Americans it would take seven Earths to supply the resources.
>>>>> Clearly it isn't sustainable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil Jones
>>>>> neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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