[Mendele] Mendele Vol.18.017

Victor Bers victor.bers at yale.edu
Mon Jan 19 19:30:26 EST 2009


Mendele: Yiddish literature and language
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Contents of Vol. 18.017
January 19, 2009

1) s'a lign (Dagmar Mirre)
2) Luftmensch in Max Nordau's writing (Lawrence A. Coben)
3) yolop (Francine Perlman)
4) yolop (Hershl Hartman)
5) yolop (Ilya Levin)
6) yolop (Martin Jacobs)
7) yolop (Bob Rothstein)
8) plotke (Lillian Siegfried)
9) ashlekh (Perets Mett)

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Date: January 12, 2009
Subject: s'a lign

Miriam Stein hot gefregt vegn sholem aleykhems "S'a lign." S'iz faran a
reshime mit ale zayne verk oyfn adres
http://yiddish.haifa.ac.il/SholAley/indices.pdf.

Dortn iz fartseykhnt, az der monolog gefint sikh oyf yidish in

Ale verk fun sholem aleykhem, Forverts oysgabe, New York, 1942, Band 3,
DALED: 155-161 un der

Folksfond oysgabe, New York, 1917-1923., Band XXI (1921): 155-161.

Oyf english in "Stories and Satires," by Sholem Aleichem (cl) New York,
London: Yoseloff, 1959 un

"Some Laughter, Some Tears," by Sholem Aleichem (cl) New York: Putnam,
1968.

Oyb ir kent dos dafke nit gefinen, fregt baym shames vegn mayn
blitspost-adres, shraybt mir, un ikh vel aykh shikn an elektrishe kopie
funem monolog oyf yidish.

Mit beste grusn,
Dagmar Mirre

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Date: January 6, 2009
Subject: Luftmensch in Max Nordau's writing

Can anyone provide the citation for the original writing in which Max
Nordau first used and defined the term "Luftmensch"? Also, did he ever
write anything else on the subject?

I'll appreciate any help.

Lawrence A. Coben

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Date: January 11, 2009
Subject: yolop

In Yiddish Dictionary Look-up =
http://www.cs.uky.edu/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/~raphael/dictionary.cgi

yolop - noun, plural in -es, gender m, fool, oaf, idiot

Francine Perlman

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Date: January 11, 2009
Subject: yolop

To reply to my friend Al Grand's query: Harkavy's Yiddish-English-Yiddish
dictionary, 22nd edition (undated, but the 11th edition was 1910), defines
"yolop" as "clumsy big fellow." His 1928 Yiddish-English-Hebrew dictionary
adds: blockhead, fool. Immediately following and referred to the "yolop"
entry is "yolopatron," which might shed some light on the etymology. I'm
sure the Mendelyaner who know about such things will inform us all.

Hershl Hartman

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Date: January 11, 2009
Subject: yolop

This is a Ukrainian word meaning a stupid person, a blockhead, an idiot
etc.

Ilya Levin

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Date: January 12, 2009
Subject: yolop

In reply to Al Grand, Harkavy's Yiddish-English-Hebrew dictionary has for
yolop "clumsy big fellow; blockhead, fool." According to Stanislawski's
Polish-English dictionary, jolop in Polish means a blockhead, a dolt.

Martin Jacobs

[Editor's note: a similar response was received from Vincent Homolka, who
points also to Niborksi's Yiddish-French dictionary. Stephen Berr notes
that "yold" has a similar meaning.]

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Date: January 11, 2009
Subject: yolop

Harkavy glosses yolop as "clumsy big fellow; blockhead, fool." The source
is presumably Ukrainian iolop [YOlop] meaning fool, although similar terms
exist in Belarusian (δlup [YOlup] (and Russian underworld slang - elop).

Bob Rothstein

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Date: January 11, 2009
Subject: plotke

I know what "plotke-makher" means - trouble maker - but would like to know
if "plotke" is Yiddish, Polish or Russian.

Many thanks,

Lillian Siegfried

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Date: January 15, 2009
Subject: ashlekh

Weinreich translates scallions (spring onions) as "ashlekh." Is there any
evidence for this usage?

By what name(s) are scallions known in Yiddish?

Perets Mett
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