[NHCOLL-L:3144] Re: Tissue request from for-profit organization

[Malcolm McCallum]

For profits are allowed to take their profits and pocket them.
Not-for-profits must take proceeds and reinvest them into the initiative.  
For profits are in business to make money
Not-for-profits are in business to deliver a product of some kind
For profits are profit driven
not-for profits must make a profit, but are initiative driven.
For profits will spend money to divest themselves of social responsibility
not-for-profits are founded on having a social responsibility.
 
The difference between a for-profit and not-for-profit goes much deeper than not paying taxes, however, by no means does being a non-for-profit make the organization any more "hones" than a for profit.  The honesty levels of these different kinds of organizations also have no bearing on their tax status!  
 
Having taught at both a for-profit college and an not-for-profit college (before getting my Ph.D.) I would not take anything coming out of any for-profit college seriously, even their students. 
 
IF you are there at UIUC, take a course in not-for-profits from the Public Admin. dept. They have an excellent one and you can discover a lot!
 
Both have advantages and disadvantages, both can make their owner rich.  
 
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From: owner-nhcoll-l at lists.yale.edu on behalf of colin favret
Sent: Sat 7/22/2006 11:00 AM
To: NHCOLL-L Natural History Collections List
Subject: [NHCOLL-L:3143] Re: Tissue request from for-profit organization


Just a thought: since corporate entities pay federal income taxes and the non-profits do not, on what grounds should the corporate entity not have at least equal access (i.e., same conditions for the same use) to assets held in the public domain?

Cheerio, colin
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On Jul 21, 2006, at 11:01 PM, NHCOLL-L Natural History Collections List wrote:



	    NHCOLL-L Digest 1316

	Topics covered in this issue include:

	  1) [NHCOLL-L:3142] Tissue request from for-profit organization
	by abentley at ku.edu
	
	
	From: "Bentley, Andrew Charles" <abentley at ku.edu>
	Date: July 21, 2006 2:07:23 PM CDT
	To: <NHCOLL-L at lists.yale.edu>
	Subject: [NHCOLL-L:3142] Tissue request from for-profit organization



	Hi all

	 

	We have just received a tissue request from a corporate entity wanting to use tissues for the developing of primers for a third party and I was wondering how other collections handle such requests.  We are a federally funded collection and as such do not charge for any services or use of collections for non-profit research use but it strikes me that this is a special case.  They will be making a profit from the sale of these primers to the third party.

	 

	Has anyone had such a request?  Did you charge for use?  In what form - a flat fee or percentage of the profits?

	 

	Thanks

	 

	Andy

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	Ichthyology Collection Manager
	University of Kansas
	Natural History Museum & Biodiversity Research Center
	Dyche Hall
	1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
	Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
	USA
	
	Tel: (785) 864-3863
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