[Nhcoll-l] Importing ethnographic collections - Migratory bird issues
Dirk Neumann
dirk.neumann at zsm.mwn.de
Thu Aug 29 10:34:37 EDT 2013
... just adding to the previously said:
If feasible, document "treatment" of feathers as best as possible, as
"bird feathers" are also considered as vector for pathogens (keyword:
bird flue) and import might trigger veterinarian issues, too. Have the
objects been prepared (cooked/dried/stained) (be)for assembling the
objects? Which agents have been used (if known - e.g. previous
insecticide treatments).
Perhaps it would be worth to consider a gamma radiation treatment to
kill potential pathogens (commonly done with fruits that are imported
e.g. from South America to kill potential invading species or pathogens)
- just an idea.
Also in this respect, documenting the time of collection from the wild
as best as possible (e.g. hunted down 50 years ago) may be relevant (if
suited to document that collections are not harmful).
All the best
Dirk
Am 27.08.2013 21:09, schrieb Ellen Paul:
> I agree with all Pat says *but* I think that for the "pre-Act" issues
> (or pre-CITES listing), the documentation is rarely available or
> unequivocal. Easier in my opinion to just get the permit.
>
> The USFWS and APHIS websites will get you part of the way there as to
> permits, but there is so much more than permits (the infamous "blue
> ink" rule, for instance; the which ports/days/times questions). And
> there is even erroneous info on some of those websites, so reliance on
> them can be problematic. For instance, there was one USFWS website
> that for years said you could import dead scientific specimens through
> any customs port. Except for one thing - the regulations said that was
> the case ONLY for specimens of species for which no permit was
> required. I brought this error to the attention of Law Enforcement at
> least twice over several years. Kudos to them for fixing it now but
> who knows what other glitches one might encounter on these websites?
> The agencies are stretched so thin that it is highly unlikely that
> they are able to devote resources to checking and updating websites.
>
>
> Ellen
>
> Ellen Paul
> Executive Director
> The Ornithological Council
> Email:ellen.paul at verizon.net
> "Providing Scientific Information about Birds"
> http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET"
>
> On 8/27/13 2:59 PM, Nutter, Pat wrote:
>>
>> When as the material collected, and who currently holds the
>> collection? Are you importing for an exhibit (and planning to
>> re-export), or are you acquiring the collection?
>>
>> For each of the objects involved you will need to know the species
>> involved, when the object was collected, and when it last changed
>> hands. (When the object was last "in commerce" can make a
>> difference when it comes to permit requirements.) This will allow you
>> to check whether each species is listed under CITES, Endangered
>> Species Act, or Migratory Bird Act and what kind of permit is needed.
>> Lists of covered species are available through the US fish & Wildlife
>> Service website(s) and the links Ellen provided below.
>>
>> Explore the USFW and USDA APHIS websites. They can be
>> mind-boggling, but they will at least give you an idea of what
>> questions you need to get answered.
>>
>> You probably want to find a good customs broker who has experience
>> dealing with importing wildlife or fine arts that contain wildlife
>> parts. (Masterpiece International one firm, and I'm sure there are
>> more in the New York area.) Having an experienced customs broker is
>> no substitute for being familiar with the regulations yourself, but
>> it can certainly help. Bring them into the process early -- they may
>> have valuable information about what is a realistic timeline.
>>
>> The permit review process with US Fish & Wildlife and USDA APHIS
>> can take months, so leave yourself plenty of time between the time
>> you apply for a permit and the time when you need the collection to
>> travel. If you are planning to import and then re-export the
>> collection, consider the permit application and review process when
>> you are making your plans. If you need to import and then apply for
>> re-export permits, you don't want to be stuck with a schedule that
>> calls for you to export the collection before you have the permits ready.
>>
>> You will also need to check to see if the exporting country has
>> export regulations that affect what you are planning to do. (CITES
>> Appendix I listed species require both an export permit from the
>> exporting country and an import permit from U.S.. there may be
>> additional permitting requirements, depending on what you are
>> exporting and from where.) The current holder of the collection know
>> or be able to give you knowledgeable contacts, and a customs broker
>> may have contacts in the exporting country.
>>
>> Patricia Nutter
>>
>> Associate Registrar, National Museum of Natural History
>>
>> *From:*nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
>> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Ellen Paul
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:36 PM
>> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Cc:* smonson at coleccioncisneros.org
>> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Importing ethnographic collections - Migratory
>> bird issues
>>
>> What species?
>>
>> If they are on the Migratory Bird Treaty Act list
>> (*http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/regulationspolicies/mbta/mbtandx.html*)
>> then you need this permit: http://www.fws.gov/forms/3-200-6.pdf
>>
>> If they are protected under the Endangered Species Act
>> (http://www.fws.gov/endangered/)* then this permit:
>> http://www.fws.gov/forms/3-200-37.pdf
>> * Be sure to check both U.S. and foreign listings.
>>
>> If they are protected under CITES
>> (http://www.cites.org/eng/resources/species.html) then again
>> http://www.fws.gov/forms/3-200-37.pdf unless they are going between
>> CITES registered scientific institutions, in which case no permit is
>> needed but there is paperwork.
>>
>> There is another form (not a permit) called a 3-177. This is a
>> declaration form and you always, always, always have to use it for
>> every wildlife import even if no permit is required.
>>
>> Depending on what you are importing, there are also restrictions on
>> what ports and what days of the week (M-F, no federal holidays) and
>> times (regular business hours).
>>
>> And a host of other procedures.
>>
>> That's all for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
>>
>> For the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health
>> Inspection Service, the importer must have:
>>
>> 1) A VS16-3 permit
>> 2) A certificate of origin or certificate of treatment, depending on
>> the country of origin and the status of the recipient (this latter
>> would not apply to a display collection; it pertains only to research
>> labs)
>> 3) A pro forma permit
>>
>> And again, lots of additional procedures.
>>
>> Suggest you contact me off-list.
>>
>> Ellen
>>
>>
>> Ellen Paul
>> Executive Director
>> The Ornithological Council
>> Email:ellen.paul at verizon.net <mailto:ellen.paul at verizon.net>
>> Phone (301) 986 8568
>> "Providing Scientific Information about Birds" <http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET>
>> http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET" <http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET>
>>
>> On 8/27/13 12:19 PM, Skye Monson wrote:
>>
>> Dear Listservers,
>>
>> We are researching the possibility of permanently importing a
>> collection of ethnographic objects from South America which
>> includes feathers of migratory birds, among other materials from
>> endangered species. Apparently the US fish and wildlife service
>> has a lot of restrictions about importing this kind of stuff,
>> especially migratory birds. Does anyone have experience in even
>> attempting to get the permits to bring material like this into
>> the US, or know of any precedent for it?
>>
>> I appreciate any insights you may have!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> *Skye A. Monson*
>>
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