[Nhcoll-l] Ranking of largest collections -- HELP

Tue Jan 27 17:49:35 EST 2015

Chris     1/28/2015
While you're at it, could you ask about the oldest specimens in the
collections, too.
A lot of historians of biology would be grateful!
Thanks,
Karen

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On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote:

>  As I wrote to Mr. Kemp under separate cover, and as Carol’s update below
> makes clear, University-based museums are not to be discounted. (Especially
> one as pre-eminent and venerable as the UMMZ).
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> I’d also like to double-down on Carol’s comment:
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> “…realize some museums don't have every collection at their institution up
> yet on VN…”
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> Her statement  applies to all manner of centralized data repositories. But
> just as an example, The UF herp collection has, to my recollection, 273,000
> specimens (I am a fish guy) and VN reports 169,000. Why the discrepancy?
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> We are all too busy….!
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> Back to it…
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> Rob
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> Robert H. Robins
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> Senior Biologist/Collection Manager
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> *From:* nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Carol Spencer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:05 PM
> *To:* Christopher Kemp
> *Cc:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Ranking of largest collections -- HELP
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> And one update, UMMZ says this: 195,469 (through catalogue number UMMZ
> 240,000) catalogued lots representing 431,316 individual specimens
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> so that puts them in second!
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> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Carol Spencer <atrox10 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Chris
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> You should be able to put this together somewhat through the numbers of
> specimens listed on VertNet or on GBIF (or at various museum's websites,
> and realize some museums don't have every collection at their institution
> up yet on VN):  https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__portal.vertnet.org_publishers&d=AwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=qVEdWa9h_7-AK7tCekGjcr-CdYnbVskPvYWftpfOEMs&s=_He-lQslqheAdsIzZB06GF92oXcFq7bbAGEUF6JLcKc&e= 
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> My recollection for US Herps (which is not nec. the same for all
> collections) is this, based on numbers of specimens for herps listed on
> their websites or on VN:
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> 1) USNM - 566K
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> 2) AMNH  > 335K
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> 3)  KU- 335K (334,913)
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> 4) MCZ - 324K
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> 5) CAS- 310K
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> 6) FMNH-285K
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> 7) MVZ - 270K
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> 8) UMMZ - 197K
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> I apologize if I missed anyone in that ranking!
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> You'll have to add up all the rest of the collections at these places to
> get the full picture.
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> Cheers
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> Carol
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> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Christopher Kemp <cjkemp at gmail.com>
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> Please post this to the listserv
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> Hi again all, I was really impressed and excited by the feedback for my
> project collecting examples of newly-described species with long shelf
> lives. It was great! (But keep them coming too.) I had another question. I
> don't know if this is empirically known or somewhat debatable, but I'm
> trying to make a list of the top 5 natural history collections in the US,
> and in the world. So, two lists. And I mean in terms of size, or number of
> specimens. Please weigh in. I'm assuming NMNH, AMNH, the Field for the US,
> but who's next? And in the world, I just don't know: the NMNH, the BMNH,
> the AMNH? I don't know. Share your thoughts. I'm at cjkemp at gmail.com, or
> respond on the listserv. Thanks in advance! -- ck
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