[Nhcoll-l] FW: Vermiculite as respiratory hazard

Dirk Neumann dirk.neumann at zsm.mwn.de
Mon Feb 12 16:32:33 EST 2018


Hi Paul,

wouldn't dry insulation cavity filling materials do the job? Very light, 
very absorbent, and even more shock resistant; 100 L sacks for less then 
20 € ...

All the best
Dirk

Am 12.02.2018 um 20:11 schrieb Callomon,Paul:
>
> One quality of Vermiculite that has not been touched on is its 
> usefulness for shipping very fragile specimens, particularly things 
> like Thorny Oysters (Spondylus) that have considerable mass but that 
> are covered in very breakable spines. Vermiculite forms itself around 
> things well and when slightly compacted prevents them moving at all. 
> It does not catch on things the way shredded paper or horsehair can, 
> and is cheaper, lighter and easier to source than Excelsior (wood wool).
>
> Not connected with its sorbent qualities, true, but another reason 
> folks kept it around all these years.
>
> PC
>
> *Paul Callomon*
> /Collection Manager, Malacology, Invertebrate Paleontology and General 
> Invertebrates/
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> *From:*nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu 
> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Vanessa R. Rhue
> *Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2018 2:03 PM
> *To:* Bacharach, Joan <joan_bacharach at nps.gov>; Rachael Perkins 
> Arenstein <rachael at amartconservation.com>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] FW: Vermiculite as respiratory hazard
>
> Hi Joan,
>
> Thanks for the invite! I've been interested in developing best 
> practices for wrapping and shipping specimens sent on institutional 
> loan so this thread piqued my interest. But since my expertise deals 
> with vertebrate fossils, a COG submission on this topic should 
> probably come from someone who regularly handles wet collections.
>
> Rachel's suggestion of the SPNHC Wiki is great too. I'm supportive of 
> both these initiatives. Getting H&S information out to the people 
> entrusted with handling these specimens and making decisions about 
> materials and methods for shipment is important.
>
> Cheers,
>
> VRR
>
>
> Vanessa R. Rhue
> Assistant Collections Manager
> Department of Vertebrate Paleontology
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> 10:11 AM 02/12/2018, Bacharach, Joan wrote:
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>     Hi Rachael;
>
>     We'd be pleased to have someone write a /Conserve O Gram/ on the
>     topic.  However, writing a /COG /can take time, given the research
>     and review process involved.  I agree with you, having the topic
>     appear on the SPNHC wiki site would certainly ensure a timely
>     discussion.  We can see if someone would like to volunteer to
>     write the /COG/ -- what about it Vanessa?
>
>     ​Joan​
>
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>     On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Rachael Perkins Arenstein
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>     Conserve O Grams are, of course, very useful and widely trusted
>     and popular.  It would be up to Joan Bachrach who manages this
>     resource to decide whether it is broadly applicable to National
>     Park Service staff but, until that time or, in addition, this
>     seems like a topic that would do well on the SPNHC wiki site.
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>     If any/all of the contributors to this thread volunteer to
>     summarize the conversation and suggest appropriate solutions, I
>     can ensure that it is posted on the site.  That would also provide
>     a way to distribute and cite the relevant information and it has
>     the advantage of a fast turnaround time.
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>     Best,
>
>     Rachael
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>     Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 11:49 AM
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>     To: Dirk Neumann <dirk.neumann at zsm.mwn.de
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>     Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
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>     Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Vermiculite as respiratory hazard
>
>     Perhaps this topic could be written up in the NPS Conserve O Gram
>     series. This might make the information easy to distribute and
>     cite. Previous short papers have also been translated into Spanish.
>
>     Conserve O Gram
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>     Cheers,
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>     VRR
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>     On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Dirk Neumann
>     <dirk.neumann at zsm.mwn.de <mailto:dirk.neumann at zsm.mwn.de> > wrote:
>
>     Hi Jeff & all
>
>     good idea - which countries/ languages would be needed ? So far, I
>     have encountered vermiculite only in shipments from US
>     institutions; never saw it in loans from European institutions.
>     Maybe just Spanish would be sufficient?
>
>     Another option would be to notify institutions/colleagues shipping
>     specimens on vermiculite about the potential health issues when
>     such loans arrive/are discovered. We would thus reach also
>     colleagues which do not follow NHColl conversations.
>
>     All the best
>
>     Dirk
>
>
>     Am 09.02.2018 um 22:48 schrieb Jeff Stephenson:
>
>     Thanks Rob!
>
>     Is there a way we can get this translated into some other
>     languages and spread the word among our international colleagues?
>
>     JEFF STEPHENSON
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>     Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Vermiculite as respiratory hazard
>
>     Very funny coincidence - James Maclain (NHM London) just brought
>     this up in an internal conversation. Actually there is no reason
>     to use it, and simple paper towels surely do even better as
>     absorbent material for IATA packaging, compared to vermiculite.
>     For A 180 packing, the requirement is that the absorbent material
>     must be sufficient to hold the entire fluid per packaging in case
>     of leakage. There are no further specifications, and even toilet
>     paper would do a perfect job, but admittedly tends to be rather
>     unstable compared to normal paper towels when wet.
>
>     When I receive such shipments, I carefully open the outer
>     packaging and remove the vermiculite into a large zip-lock back
>     and immediately rinse the inner packing under water to avoid the
>     dust; vermiculite is also VERY electrostatic, and you have it just
>     everywhere.
>
>     Thanks for pushing this, Rob!
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>     Have a nice weekend
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>     Dirk
>
>     Am 09.02.2018 um 20:19 schrieb Rob Robins:
>
>     Hi Folks,
>
>     I have health and safety concerns regarding the use of vermiculite
>     as an “outer packet” absorbency material in the shipping of 
>     alcohol preserved specimens. We have never used vermiculite in the
>     Florida Museum Fish Collection, but I receive many specimen
>     shipments containing it and thus must handle it. And as anyone who
>     has touched the stuff can attest, no matter how carefully handled,
>     tiny particles of vermiculite end up suspended in the air one is
>     breathing.
>
>     A number of scientific papers lead me to conclude my health and
>     safety concerns are not unreasonable. Here’s some of what I’ve
>     found:
>
>     · No matter where it was mined from, vermiculite is likely to
>     contain fibrous minerals.
>
>     · That few of these types of fibrous minerals have been formally
>     classified as asbestos and regulated as such would appear to be
>     more a function of what fibers were in use commercially at the
>     time the regulations were created. (Baumann, F., J. P. Ambrosi,
>     and M. Carbone. 2013. Asbestos is not just asbestos: an
>     unrecognized health hazard. The Lancet Vol 14 June 2013).
>
>     · To be certain, vermiculite has at times been found to contain
>     asbestiform amphiboles (groups of needlelike silicates clumped
>     together) such as winchite, richterite, and tremolite, the latter
>     of which is regulated (Sullivan, P. 2007. Vermiculite, respiratory
>     disease, and asbestos exposure in Libby, Montana: Update of a
>     cohort mortality study. Environmental Health Perspectives Apr; 115
>     (4): 579-585).
>
>     My question to the list: Why is anyone using vermiculite as an
>     absorbent when inert and safe alternatives such as polypropylene
>     chemical spill absorbent pads are widely and cheaply available?
>     Failing any good answer to this question, my follow up would be,
>     can we all please stop?
>
>     Best wishes,
>
>     Rob Robins
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>     P.S. The Baumann paper concludes thusly, and I agree:
>
>     “The restricted regulatory definition of asbestos to six fibres
>     used commercially contributes to miscommunication and uncertainty
>     regarding the toxic effects of some fibrous minerals. We propose
>     that all fibrous minerals be handled as potentially pathogenic
>     until they are proven safe. Moreover, to protect human health, a
>     wider regulatory definition of asbestos should include all
>     potentially carcinogenic mineral fibres, without distinction of
>     type and commercial use.”
>
>     Robert H. Robins
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