[Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens

Thomas Labedz tlabedz1 at unl.edu
Tue Aug 13 11:09:50 EDT 2019 

An option that may work within your tank is one I sometimes utilize within a jar, polyethylene plastic sleeves. Each sleeve holds the specimen, its label, and is perforated to share the preservative of the jar. See attached photo. This would not be suitable if you are preserving the specimens as environmental DNA vouchers where you definitely would not want preservative sharing. The poly sleeve would have to be robust enough to match the size of the specimen when being handled. Another option might be to custom cut and perforated sheets of acrylic to slide into the tank to separate specimens, similar to what aquarium hobbyists use to separate living fish within a single tank.
Thomas E. Labedz, Collections Manager
Division of Zoology and Division of Botany
University of Nebraska State Museum


From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of DjanChekar, Nathalie
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens

A tangent on this topic...
For the first time, we recently purchased stainless steel tanks for the storage of several large specimens. To optimize space and cost, we would like to store several specimens (not necessarily of the same taxa) per tank. The questions that we're struggling with are:

-          Should we be concerned with several specimens "sharing" preservative? If so, how can we isolate them from one another?

-          Should we be concerned about compression? If so, how do we prevent it?

-          Some specimens are fragile, with loose parts, how do we protect them and keep everything together, including labels?
Thanks for your sharing your expertise and experience!
Nathalie

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From: Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Bentley, Andrew Charles
Sent: August-08-19 4:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens

Numerous reasons:


1.       Shipping cost for us would be exorbitant

2.       Shelving - we do not have spaces that can accommodate such large (tall) jars

3.       Safety - I can only imagine how unstable one of those would be in pour part of the world.

We mainly use stainless steel tanks for long term storage of large specimens.

Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Dirk Neumann
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 1:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens

... just out of curiosity:

the largest polycarbonate container, item 107-1222, 14,78'' x 15'' (roughly 37 x 38 cm ) costs 328.90 U$ (293,45 EUR). The borosilicate jar I recently purchased to accommodate our new black-tip reef shark measures 120 cm x 20 cm (approx. 47'' x 7,90'') and costs 291,00 EUR.

Apparently the polycarbonate containers are more expensive then high quality borosilicate jars. Why not preferring borosilicate ?

All the best
Dirk



Am 08.08.2019 um 17:03 schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
Tonya

Our herpetology collection has been experimenting with these in the collection for short to medium term storage.  They seal fairly well, are relatively inexpensive (and light to ship) and have the added benefit of being clear so that you can see contents and fluid levels.  They come in various sizes and tack fairly well:

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Hope that helps

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace)
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 1:47 AM
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens

Hi all,

I need to order some buckets for storing larger fluid-preserved specimens in. Eventually we would like to go to stainless steel containers, but right now that's not an option.... Anyway, I am wondering if polypropylene buckets are acceptable in terms of archival quality (I realise they will eventually fail) and if not, if anyone has a better recommendation for a relatively cheap solution?

Thanks!

Tonya



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