[Nhcoll-l] Converging Digital and Extended Specimens: An observation on nomenclature

Thu Jan 21 14:48:55 EST 2021

I have also been engaged in digitizing collections for the last 45 years. And for the last 35 years I have heard about the last new vision what to do with all this data, usually from people who never did the collection work themselves. Many here who has handled large old collections, where at least some procent of the collection was identified by non-specialists, so many years ago that, at that time, the concept of that species was not even in the same family as today. The most extreme case are those Linnaean types which was never studied since Linnaeus death!

I have not followed this referred discussion, but with identifications like the ones above, the digital twin will not be much of a twin.

Best wishes from a grumpy old man

Erik Åhlander
vertebrate zoology and museum history

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Swedish Museum of Natural History
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Från: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> För Howe, Michael P.A.
Skickat: den 21 januari 2021 19:10
Till: Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Ämne: [Nhcoll-l] Converging Digital and Extended Specimens: An observation on nomenclature

Dear All,

As the exciting work that many of us have been engaged in for the past 10 - 20 years, to digitze our collections and thereby make them more accessible, grows in support, complexity and achievement, I wish to offer a warning and a comment.

I believe the term "digital twin" should be avoided and replaced by "digital proxy", "digital surrogate" or just "digital specimen". The word twin implies that the digital specimen is absolutely identical to the physical specimen, which it is clearly not. The physical specimen can subjected to new forms of physical analysis and at greater resolutions, in a way that a digital surrogate cannot. Also, the cynic in me knows that before long, a hard pressed administrator will argue that if we have the digital twin we don't need the physical twin.

I am also concerned with the use of the term PID - persistent identifiers. Collections have been using persistent identifiers - unique registration numbers - for over two hundred years (and the British Geological Survey since 1849). Actionable or executable persistent identifiers are a vital tool for linking to objects,  but are a very much newer concept. It seems disingenuous of data scientists not to acknowledge two centuries of good practice (and all the hard work of curators and registrars) and instead use an acronym such as EPID or APID?

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Mike Howe
Chief Curator, British Geological Survey

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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Consultation on Converging Digital and Extended Specimens: Towards a global specification for data integration

Dear all,

Over the past year several exciting conversations about the possibilities of digital representations of the billions of specimens currently held in the world's natural history collections. Two concepts-the Digital Specimen<https://url11.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1l2ePI-0006aq-5K&i=57e1b682&c=qnk0J-kEKGIpwy6Qe62oe0NvScEngUapHoDQzn__tjZAc5o7SUvaMuKPKsjlvo5aLyQ3YEEjDHzAYGruTyM-s1M9aRDGGZ4iA9GA3I63dtHQHjcWCPw6_fuaUz6J6bC9zHv10uuRlfYm-OpoTcWL_hr734UkQLsKXjo1SNkM2sQwII9_RPrZi6IIapY7scJHcBO61BjD2dm8D-Xr3HtNgXdhSB6eBZD9OsxyK7EncbyvJw9piEbq6FNgVMEEVQ-sV33-ayBLN9Rzd1Gn27eSdQ> proposed by the Distributed System of Scientific Collections<https://url11.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1l2ePI-0006aq-5K&i=57e1b682&c=VeelxXqUmcR84447LDOfKznSEBSGa4rCF5VAHCPkfJfpmOd0YH3auAc70U67DEttAw7pzqKgV8GhXJIYpLN-teKF4iY2Z-DFSx_kOKa34ujuIpyejo6b31LPtJi2HeLWv5eDveAZJhpVvvC9hh4_2zH4agj75maeGYM7iDYRZyO_UYrsYxYNhQDLvelPHnYkXhn7tvO1BIUE51--Wr2XgrlOA39gO2HqWils8oeycmg> (DiSSCo) in Europe and the Extended Specimen<https://url11.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1l2ePI-0006aq-5K&i=57e1b682&c=pBP74sX7C78wsjyuEy_LWgAOkPCd6dZUOW1qrW4chsMycw4x2Inz87sgZaIgeqIlyNmpxUi2qu2bcJkMXyN5k8nyr4b5zXBHdbvXLuV8jttQY0_sr7RL1leM-HNxDMkov-DuRqV7NJwJb2EbrHCbkX0X34fVN65VINVGy9vlLcKw2Ev5uiiOQ5s_gu7fPf-gxrGTXlvssf5RmUPMrhCPVuv7JxxgUr4mna9DRf3Q6O0GPKf5EfJ21_6YrCitcC69RqoZyf7yr1LHeI_RGtNPUY6rODsYGS_Cxhw2GkszE8LEqzOpP_xwJ6SCqhd-k1qaBHh-10brh4jaCUDgdPlO52QmT8jwS8hGLxhM83jYYNes1yZa74qFZGX67xUIdb-i> emerging from the Biological Collections Network<https://url11.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1l2ePI-0006aq-5K&i=57e1b682&c=w3G_Quqo42aIj5YXDWEYQjA3xc-_bfUOF23UbfTAh0LuxmzbToBrxQPa_NHth2X6UAWIe5NctQqvxI33KuYEWv99-7Z9AzOhDR5BgJRuZopPFA3eunAmVcB5fegQN-xfxT06PTnPfOFSKJjE9qrZehJYlaMZToSIEFJhO5uvv4fvL7NJCfvgm34iMDuJ-3kS0YXnZACgVmvyFfgGEQ4o4BcpYzLf1X1LO_pv5CG6av4> (BCoN) in the United States-are now aligning towards a shared vision that connects all information related to a specimen, creating in effect "digital twins" for the materials held in scientific collections.

Plans for the alliance <https://url11.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1l2ePI-0006aq-5K&i=57e1b682&c=SqXPYl80CeeSHzMyrSZQV1dSBQzawGwiFAjRImt9KIH_XoZyomNKXKijvesTULajvlg4EvMO41NEwB59DJLZh4rMSJxFmGwEvmA4NYJSSLGD7HXqKhEVdL24SH74-Wdi2Svjz2MVJ5IPHHDX47l8LZAwUdKg67CIwita8SXp83m5XaCV-2whKRg9EOqt3k0Hh0eeX9ulVakgiDuTu0-rn92ud_m0_ZEv57DIXFybtcC341En7PvEPzd0jODZVhQ1C-UgOKI1BqtGxksIrYR8oqH2eAm5idCGLqWdnIgwhSZTcNPEDA5lqYdDroxJgIQUghPhQOUNz0OtAUvn-7xDWUAK12dMa2m6TA4_hEeZ7250Vmfw7pq6-CU2RX2IXQfYE-WTOQy9OL7PAbMuZiEVraEgwSAIC17daqoD8m0dyreT2CvbSMn4-KprS5TTuV_GATgGWcQY4owhL5M0M1XTOPLu6zuuuZN-37fs2C3A4nkA8XJSzKCWKZnP2sPyIxg3fQSioMEU6hXY_hvrl_TUNbGEE5VP4wzs2Ca0P4GjZyWSS7ISQBs74h_HJGtKm81Nwvtw5edSUEJ7aa2PSs1d2VVASMzuKEV0asgLg_JLmeUyS7rb76ILvjj5kYrFi9MMCUyXUV3wpZ6Fsg74cv8Po1fYehRSkjHO2tzl8Kotz3jQBG1r1-97Z6jRuvCjybXWAn3g6Wn79ZqG9TU3WuQ23g> consultation on Converging Digital and Extended Specimens: Towards a global specification for data integration<https://url11.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1l2ePI-0006aq-5K&i=57e1b682&c=kI-R-zx9_8VbF4-ii3Z1H8BFEjVzwlqhJdL-i3OxJLyACtmPjBtPFy0cw014odHynFfj0g7LRHGHcEDv6PLRdUhvGS-QEV6DpMdm7zlL-se4WxfLsJX_wdRkzIrUtMaNTmol9oPdnFSyb-YUG7aDiLGW0ly3GisGAqsNkn2SDHYC_orXQbvLYdg_4e0KNIJ_pewZHM2YM18kCjXIQ8RPEunBOEOJ4N6IrSeMK9I03ShwR4iYSE-8PnQFU6asQZyBY9K0xdYPRSczo11A7EhogzXTmd707He97Fh4ZDpuydhx4gE_rytPXXkbuH9fuRP-OrG49AjDlHi2waoQhdtP_x5j556Km9pez1-f0L8GWY1nxzlixXlxy4KArtCtZYVIRFSYP6VPzDwmVwyzB_4q8awvKlq9SKoHH08jrJMs_ZwqdBW2mY_Bq4bRDBvDsDd_cmzUqNwx48qXjLN-FSmlrJc9Sw_By1L9KC-_Qu98atSZ8-8hhrxjJeMN7VaXu8CH9NwuIGTc6BIe72zPBjK7Gp3e_hWcAA9BKkzq9Oe0WM0Y1AiuzGLo793pgz7dy2VaruEunj-O7ZE8xewMuZ5PuiTXPAExZ3qBrlGB-9pkzWQ4tNmvScpxaisvX8xsfYU2iWaR0J7d8QDLR0QjbnPxvoKK4oqaVvqEJf8tbIY-yT_MUin2H4hhp_ftk3arPFu9worz3DEr_TBI-ZGuc15FN5WBUpkiCZUDCDZTqmq2d42A-IDsVFF74WL2EYJTQvPRt8LfxUQ3Nvmwd4Ys_fIioDnhkjI-pxTZlOjWvSfjCUQ2I1rAFLBrs88EsqH18Phc9-ADALStLX3e3PGw4NXm-Q> are progressing well.

Beginning in February, the consultation<https://url11.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1l2ePI-0006aq-5K&i=57e1b682&c=lQ-NwbEhDh4F35kDRBd-hgCummPixj80ytLr_Nj4ryfcTGHKIXw5X99ECVTzyqmfbCF8Wk4nzdz7S163RaZQ_yGfrkgXmfhnh79gpulWEYFGcQOrANl4cOtixOj5o4grX133ilACjGiIjewrEokA4KiEiN9BNWp3NF7b-8WmOMLFEmJD2OI7EniQo2ELrlV8Vv6mGxFYPsJGMGASnMmY-mcmZP0CPiZvuxZoxiOGCgU> will seek to engage the wider community on a handful of topics that have technical, financial, social, governance and professional implications that require broader discussion and consensus. The consultation aims to expand participation in the process, build support for further collaboration, identify key use cases, and develop an initial roadmap for community adoption and implementation.

GBIF, DiSCCo, iDigBio, ALA, and the Biodiversity Collections Network (BCoN), among others, invite you to register for one of the two virtual opening sessions that will be held on February 16 by following the links below and then to become involved in the Discourse consultation discussion process.

Session 1 6:00 UTC<https://url11.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1l2ePI-0006aq-5K&i=57e1b682&c=B7qDV_3swFA7P3ZrxyQvValOLey_o9zBySN-xeqyisJ0UdFPJjdV2ebxXZkQDFnr3u6DogSL8CuTUaMBahdFl6lN9uIsYHQoWH1ouD-lI2Jl2o1bQL23hxgCqpEF2RmWjg6R7oAFh7O20LJPGzGE1P_St65T68QMrlCR_iTCrMVt5S3zq2H3h9kuxiabtTwyRzAZSSUiMHnUdOIYIIREe5ehIcO-qRpeMfRvEnOVBIEqdcvKJJsyyI5uV6ML8we3J40y7ROfAfrDaZkSDj3Ig1h9VfiLlINrrtDABkdylIIt94zBjRPdPOHli5eR7xRGoViwJqRpOm0KtbCSohGkp0pVIwSJbFqiT0aKIbLe9aImoV0DWeq6z32JfZb_AtlrgyJA5UZKYQSROXXx59fdcnVzNBtyk94vlSEumLHswKiYVQQqzXwetqwPCi5JIq7wf6t8JILdtUW2xsxpaDNT9C3hWTL0Q_esymw8sEmwkbjPQVSe9PR8Ttr252DRwFmzK4dkiOmJoj9j2x69FtcLFMwEFCxDSINjHrb3D_SWEfDnW51QZxy7F5h3Xw9bHS0v6SAY5Wx3erbcfyQ9TbMXTjDRy82LEHW8JGY4pOrzt4zByQZsvDNxvxC7G_mR4Kd7S1MOt0ksb4TJRJaOXN_1LMialxKtoHg---IDZOtKpPnJoI-bHv3zxIsQ-afXVY5p24ypUI9C1zP6i4ijgIVjDneDNGozcy_qv2rhaTeUGgcBD_ROY-pQd5jvho87g-MdDbgRil0B5mhPs6ZdVV9qDQ>

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The GBIF community forum landing page for the consultation<https://url11.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1l2ePI-0006aq-5K&i=57e1b682&c=K9C6Ui6XcFhCBN4o_7RuleNZC_vUWO0cL9CnaHbc-77RfNZTJ8wRORs_LRJyR-mamBZqJZxpSr7s-cXfGXOS1z7t3B2uXR2qzSgYKw2ZmL3aCJkOKHQDRwRy7Aobe23h3IV9nuehzXV6z31wP9amcGdG40UguspB4-a1G8fJYcz4oPNDxkCN9La5BF_RhXPQuYPKw0aPwGTeLpbzRL6GxD2UZ_ItrHYXYUyvhDADccqahWCXIXWWVWpMclfyMEenFTIIFStwZ29aX3C5k_nDmF2ePFVMd3MtANcmttWiDsb7BxSf0FI4YNP4Vyvl2NWZyDefjQeDsgA67E93K4pq8I0C6-SYj152LNm6k67dSHp4R_jCHETsinTho02EBTsNlg1-YMISmc6rDm2BMnKMLLlsnxL-rDeXyPMDqGhkIWPPpinbRgZOpNCjs9dLNFzM8lHdk7kxWb_e05_r3XL_MuroOVjs0jWds3lqsPMzT90eoevohL9oQHKu0quNJUy8OWKQaYD_DTFR1IUU14l1e4jOnDYw3Bhz9mvxbCqU8N_xoormWVvRQNFqs4A7kI-fOyJ4eKiXWJ6SU7gylysk3Drv1QF0Ocm5-zx42JA8hINpMopwl3GDRna3ePj3W2Ndvpt223kM0zhMwpNj40ASvS2d8QRrkiUxrJ_qAFDChEhxUyeXisz2N21lR84mmif314UB_kSwguqndWVKyVoiyGQkDu3x8iFwMD4R_FKx19QrIIHKGZNz8TLD9UpU4ORS0FyJBjLHZGhh96zF5aOfmg> is also now live.  This page will hold guidance on the consultation process with links to the discussion threads.  Please see links on the landing page to more background documents. If you are a new user of the GBIF community forum you will need to register.

The organizers are excited by the large attendance at recent related events and expect a thoughtful and robust consultation.

Thanks

Andy (on behalf of BCoN)

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