[Nhcoll-l] Rehousing specimens and retaining labels
Dirk Neumann
neumann at snsb.de
Fri Jun 4 07:24:20 EDT 2021
Dear all,
Erik touches an important point here - not only handwriting an ink, but
composition of the paper are very valuable assets when you need to trace
the origin of historic specimens. You can't do this from an image.
With best wishes
Dirk
Am 04.06.2021 um 11:54 schrieb Erik Åhlander:
>
> Dear Nicki,
>
> As you already have been informed. Never ever discard the original
> label! Also the physical connection to the specimen is important. We
> have done the opposite: moved specimen to lager jars to be able to
> take care of the labels. If you have to save space: discard the
> specimens and keep the labels (OK, I am joking – maybe). I am
> presently regaining information lost in the 1790s through fragments of
> original labels. A picture of a label is not enough. The kind of ink
> and paper is important. We have plans for the future to test if
> chemical analysis of the labels can help understanding the origin of
> certain important specimens.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Erik Åhlander
>
> vertebrate zoology and museum history
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> *Från:*Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *För *Simon Moore
> *Skickat:* den 3 juni 2021 16:19
> *Till:* Nicole Seiden <nseiden at fau.edu>
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> *Ämne:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Rehousing specimens and retaining labels
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> Hi Nicole,
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> Yes a trade card binder should be good. Ensure that there is a
> cross-ref’ing number somewhere even if it’s the original acquisition
> number.
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> As to repairing the flaky ones, I used to back them onto Japanese
> tissue with a little neutral PVA. A bit terrifying at first but I took
> time to practice using bits of flaky browned paper, really hones the
> skills and the labels were easy after that!
>
> With all good wishes, Simon
>
> Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
> Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,
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> On 3 Jun 2021, at 14:56, Nicole Seiden <nseiden at fau.edu
> <mailto:nseiden at fau.edu>> wrote:
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> Hello everyone,
>
> Thank you very kindly for your responses and input!
> I do intend to digitize the labels before any final movement of
> them however, we are also planning to convert our database from
> Access to Specify in the next year or two. Until we switch into
> Specify, our photos will be stored on a separate hard drive and
> won't be attached to the individual records right away. I'm
> not keen on discarding the labels entirely, as I agree with the
> notion that digital data remains vulnerable to several sources
> (e.g., hackers, server failure, human error, etc.), and the
> curators here are able to recognize the handwriting of previous
> curators and collectors, as others have noted.
>
> Simon - Organizing the labels into stamp albums is a clever idea!
> We may do something similar - maybe something like a trading card
> binder.
> Eric - I'm partial to jar-size labels too! I'm hoping to make this
> my next project after organizing the jars by size.
>
> Lennart - Storing them in alcohol would take up additional space,
> and if you store multiple labels in a single jar of alcohol,
> retrieving and returning individual labels becomes a challenge and
> risks damaging the labels. My vote is to store them in a dry
> envelope or filing system like Simon suggested.
> Has anyone laminated their old/redundant/archived labels? Some of
> our labels are in poor condition and laminating them may make
> handling them less hazardous.
>
> Cheers,
> Nicki
>
> Nicki L. Seiden, M.Sc.
> She/Her/Hers
> Research Collection Manager
> Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institute
> nseiden at fau.edu <mailto:nseiden at fau.edu>
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> And multiple backups of all digital data would be useful. As
> others noted, the original labels contain useful info and should
> be saved.
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> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 4:06 AM Simon Moore
> <couteaufin at btinternet.com <mailto:couteaufin at btinternet.com>> wrote:
> At the Natural History Museum in London we mounted all old /
> redundant labels into stamp albums with Mylar strips. This was to
> preserve handwritings of former curators and conservators, also
> some historic labels. I was unsure about relying entirely on
> digital data system to keep this vital resource but that in the
> days when data systems could be hacked and injected with erasure
> viruses. However, it left an impression with me which is why I’m
> still rather sceptical about trusting all of my vital data to the
> computer!
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> With all good wishes, Simon
>
> Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
> Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,
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> > On 2 Jun 2021, at 18:03, Nicole Seiden <nseiden at fau.edu
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> > Hello everyone,
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> > We are about to begin a major reorganization project here at
> Harbor Branch to conserve on space and allow for future growth.
> One part to this project includes rehousing wet specimens
> into smaller size-appropriate jars, with our smallest jar being
> 20mL scintillation vials, then barcoding and organizing the jars
> by size. I’ve run into a dilemma with this however, and I wanted
> to ask the community for suggestions.
> >
> > Specimens housed in 20mL vials are currently stored in larger 8
> oz jars so the handwritten collection label and printed label (2”x
> 3”) are housed with the specimen. By removing the 8 oz
> jars though, we can save a substantial amount of space. For
> example – we can house more than 5,500 scintillation jars in a
> single column of shelves, as opposed to ~900 8 oz jars per column.
> The problem with the small scintillation jars is that the
> collection labels are too large to store inside of them. While
> these jars will be barcoded with catalog numbers and unique
> location, I’m still uncomfortable with removing the internal
> specimen labels.
> >
> > One idea is to house these labels in a near-by folder and after
> this project is completed, printing off new jar-size appropriate
> labels, possibly with reduced information. The original
> handwritten labels will likely have to stay in this folder
> long-term though.
> >
> > I’m curious if anyone else has tackled this dilemma, or might
> have ideas on how they would address it if it were their own
> collection?
> >
> > Forever curious,
> > Nicki
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> > Nicki L. Seiden, M.Sc.
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