[Nhcoll-l] Nhcoll-l Digest, Vol 119, Issue 4
Catherine Early (she/her)
cearly at smm.org
Tue Apr 19 11:56:02 EDT 2022
Hi Elise,
John Simmons
<https://www.museumstudy.com/john-simmons#:~:text=John%20is%20president%20of%20Museologica,associate%20of%20the%20Museo%20de>
is
my go-to person for fluid-preserved specimen conservation. He is active on
NHCOLL so he may have already seen your request.
Best,
Catherine
<https://www.smm.org/>
*Catherine M. Early, PhD*
she/her
*Barbara Brown Chair of Ornithology*
e: cearly at smm.org
https://catherineearly.wixsite.com/home
We envision a world where everyone has the power to use science to make
lives better,
and we are committed to using STEM as a tool to advocate for justice and
equity.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 10:40 AM Lecompte,Elise V <lecompte at flmnh.ufl.edu>
wrote:
> I have two questions to post:
>
> 1. Does anyone know of an appraiser that can value animal pelts? We
> received a call from an estate agent; of course, I told her that we cannot
> value or appraise objects, but I did send her the web links to the American
> Society of Appraisers and the International Society of Appraisers.
>
> 2. I received a call from a museum colleague here in Florida that needs to
> find a conservator or collections specialist that can advise them on
> conserving older fluid-preserved specimens. Does anyone have a suggestion?
>
> Thanks, Elise
>
> ___________________________
> Elise V. LeCompte
> Registrar and Coordinator of Museum Health & Safety
> Florida Museum of Natural History
> Dickinson Hall
> 1659 Museum Road
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
> TEL: 352-273-1925
> www.flmnh.ufl.edu
>
>
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> 1. Re: Drones around real specimens? (Jennifer C. Dreyer)
> 2. Re: Drones around real specimens? (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
> 3. Re: Drones around real specimens? (Battermann, Nora)
> 4. Re: Drones around real specimens? (Christy Bills)
> 5. Re: Drones around real specimens? (Fabian Neisskenwirth)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:22:50 +0000
> From: "Jennifer C. Dreyer" <jcdrey at vims.edu>
> To: "simpson at fieldmuseum.org" <simpson at fieldmuseum.org>,
> "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many of
> drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle avoidance
> systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in extremely close
> quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The obvious concern is the
> experience of the drone operator as already pointed out. That is a more
> relevant question in terms of responsibility of care. The benefits of
> promoting natural history collections with non-traditional ways of engaging
> people seems to outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now
> that I had some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my
> drone. Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a
> very interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> Jenny Dreyer
>
> ****************************************************
> Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> Research Manager
> Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> Email: jcdrey at vims.edu<mailto:jcdrey at vims.edu>
> Phone: (804) 684-7903
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of William
> Simpson
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
>
> [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such as
> mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The video is
> a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message this sends to
> the public about a museum's attitude concerning its responsibilities for
> professional care vs increased public exposure. Do the benefits of such
> promotion justify this?
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
> --
>
>
> William F. Simpson (he)
> Head of Geological Collections
> McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> Gantz Family Collections Center
>
> Field Museum of Natural History
> 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> Chicago, IL. 60605
> (312) 665-7628
> fieldmuseum.org<
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:29:32 +0000
> From: "Bentley, Andrew Charles" <abentley at ku.edu>
> To: "Jennifer C. Dreyer" <jcdrey at vims.edu>, "simpson at fieldmuseum.org"
> <simpson at fieldmuseum.org>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu"
> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> Imagine being able to fly down an aisle of open drawers in a collection
> much like those iconic images from the Smithsonian. Something like that
> would be so much more engaging that a static image. Same goes for ethanol
> collection shelves or exhibits like our iconic panorama here at KU.
>
> Now I need to put a bug in the ear of some drone pilots nearby ?. The
> closest we came was in using a snippet of some drone footage of the outside
> of our building for a collecting tour video we produced during COVID -
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> Andy
> A : A : A :
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> V V V
> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
> Biodiversity Institute
> Dyche Hall
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
> USA<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863<tel:%28785%29%20864-3863>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335<tel:%28785%29%20864-5335>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Jennifer
> C. Dreyer
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: simpson at fieldmuseum.org; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many of
> drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle avoidance
> systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in extremely close
> quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The obvious concern is the
> experience of the drone operator as already pointed out. That is a more
> relevant question in terms of responsibility of care. The benefits of
> promoting natural history collections with non-traditional ways of engaging
> people seems to outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now
> that I had some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my
> drone. Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a
> very interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> Jenny Dreyer
>
> ****************************************************
> Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> Research Manager
> Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> Email: jcdrey at vims.edu<mailto:jcdrey at vims.edu>
> Phone: (804) 684-7903
>
>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of William Simpson
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
>
> [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such as
> mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The video is
> a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message this sends to
> the public about a museum's attitude concerning its responsibilities for
> professional care vs increased public exposure. Do the benefits of such
> promotion justify this?
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
> --
>
>
> William F. Simpson (he)
> Head of Geological Collections
> McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> Gantz Family Collections Center
>
> Field Museum of Natural History
> 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> Chicago, IL. 60605
> (312) 665-7628
> fieldmuseum.org<
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.fieldmuseum.org-252F-26data-3D04-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C4ddfb2213b254703e27508da1e4c311f-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637855610001957439-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-26sdata-3Dc6921IO-252BADngCf868b8bF1RoPOIBT7MORnbRqIn9O-252BQ-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=5w9GQsDk5QPyvFHMptVYep1iJt0SM5Xpy9h7tLe0c_I&e=
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> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 21:30:15 +0200
> From: "Battermann, Nora" <battermann at snsb.de>
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
>
> Cheers,
> Nora
>
> ---
> Dr. Nora Battermann
> Koordination Sammlungsassessment
> ---------------------------
> Kaulbachstr. 37, III. Stock
> D-80539 M?nchen
>
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> Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny Dreyer
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > Research Manager
> >
> > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> >
> > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> >
> >
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> > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > William Simpson
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> >
> > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> > video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> > William F. Simpson (he)
> > Head of Geological Collections
> > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > Gantz Family Collections Center
> >
> > Field Museum of Natural History
> > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > (312) 665-7628
> > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> >
> > [2]
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1]
> >
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> > [2]
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:54:04 +0000
> From: Christy Bills <cbills at umnh.utah.edu>
> To: "Battermann, Nora" <battermann at snsb.de>,
> "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum
> (Natural History Museum of Utah).
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
>
> At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with
> collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
> We in collections and research were concerned that members of the public
> would see the cool video and then think that they could visit the museum
> and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting specimens at risk.
> Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised
> interdepartmental relationships).
>
> -Christy Bills
> (she/her)
> Invertebrates Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of
> Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
>
> Cheers,
> Nora
>
> ---
> Dr. Nora Battermann
> Koordination Sammlungsassessment
> ---------------------------
> Kaulbachstr. 37, III. Stock
> D-80539 M?nchen
>
> Telefon:
> +49 (0)174 2762445
> ---------------------------
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.snsb.de&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=54Vg6b0peOHaszl0R7R-UR6nYeFU8cDyJti3iFpIB04&e=
> <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.snsb.de&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=54Vg6b0peOHaszl0R7R-UR6nYeFU8cDyJti3iFpIB04&e=
> >
>
> Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny Dreyer
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > Research Manager
> >
> > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> >
> > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.vims.edu_about_directory_faculty_other_dreyer-5Fjc.php&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=NjgT-3ZqxuqyGuZiVUAu6m5HarNLmi5BfVTShyy82sc&e=
> >
> > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > William Simpson
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> >
> > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> > video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> > William F. Simpson (he)
> > Head of Geological Collections
> > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > Gantz Family Collections Center
> >
> > Field Museum of Natural History
> > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > (312) 665-7628
> > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> >
> > [2]
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1]
> >
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> > [2]
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:13:34 +0200
> From: Fabian Neisskenwirth <info at naturhistorische-konservierung.de>
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> Hey there,
>
>
> i think that drone videos are in fact a very nice possibility for
> non-museum people to have a better look in a museums function. Specially
> in collection that are not accessible for everyone. Here is a very nice
> example done by the Montanhistorisches Dokumentationszentrum
> (montan.dok) at the Deutsches Bergbau-Museum in Bochum, its not natural
> history collections, but you will get the idea:
>
>
>
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> (the music is horrible, but
> that's just a taste thing)
>
>
> I think that if there is professional piloting done in companionship of
> the local conservation team, the result can be very good for giving a
> nice insight in the collections.
>
>
> I can understand that sometimes it seems like new medias can be
> challenging and seem to get just a sensational effect. But at the same
> time we have to get the fact that it is 2022 and this kind of promotion
> attracts (specially younger) people to get involved with collection work
> and learn in some different way what museums do and why they are here for.
>
>
> So from my point of view videos like this can be very helpful for
> promotional use.
>
>
> Off course a good plan of what and how it is going to be shoot is very
> important for the safety of the collection.
>
>
>
> All best and nice holidays to everyone,
>
>
>
>
> Am 15.04.22 um 00:54 schrieb Christy Bills:
> > I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum
> > (Natural History Museum of Utah).
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
> >
> > At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with
> > collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
> > We in collections and research were concerned that members of the
> > public would see the cool video and then think that they could visit
> > the museum and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting
> > specimens at risk.
> > Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised
> > interdepartmental relationships).
> >
> > -Christy Bills
> > (she/her)
> > Invertebrates Collections Manager
> > Natural History Museum of Utah
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of
> > Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
> > *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> > In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> > those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> > objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> > not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> > accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> > not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nora
> >
> > ---
> > Dr. Nora Battermann
> > Koordination Sammlungsassessment
> > ---------------------------
> > Kaulbachstr. 37, III. Stock
> > D-80539 M?nchen
> >
> > Telefon:
> > +49 (0)174 2762445
> > ---------------------------
> >
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> <
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> >
> >
> > Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion.? I only wish now that I had
> > > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jenny Dreyer
> > >
> > > ****************************************************
> > > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > > Research Manager
> > >
> > > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> > >
> > > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> > > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.vims.edu_about_directory_faculty_other_dreyer-5Fjc.php&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=NjgT-3ZqxuqyGuZiVUAu6m5HarNLmi5BfVTShyy82sc&e=
> > >
> > > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > > William Simpson
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > > as mounted dinosaur skeletons.?? What do you all think of this?? The
> > > video _is _a very engaging experience.? I am mulling over what message
> > > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > William F. Simpson (he)
> > > Head of Geological Collections
> > > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > > Gantz Family Collections Center
> > >
> > > Field Museum of Natural History
> > > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > > (312) 665-7628
> > > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> > >
> > >? [2]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Links:
> > > ------
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
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> > <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.fieldmuseum.org-252F-26amp-3Bdata-3D04-257C01-257Cjcdrey-2540vims.edu-257Ca2c62a54df244f8e1f3508da1e3f59d7-257C8cbcddd9588d4e3b9c1e2367dbdf1740-257C0-257C1-257C637855554703805375-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26amp-3Bsdata-3DMrSTyzf-252F-252Bve9KQ-252BNP9h3J3Q-252FguxWHeBMxId5p-252BCcYZM-253D-26amp-3Breserved-3D0&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=FJLBM94RewsKPQN7AlQxfLLSHQqGiS3yEKC57eD5zYw&e=
> >
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:40:36 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "membership at spnhc.org" <membership at spnhc.org>
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] SPNHC Membership Committee looking for Co-Chairs
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> The SPNHC Membership Committee is looking for two Co-Chairs to take up
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> The role of Chair(s) involves:
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 19:24:21 +0000
> From: Robert Waller <rw at protectheritage.com>
> To: Fabian Neisskenwirth <info at naturhistorische-konservierung.de>,
> "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Cc: Jane Henderson <HendersonLJ at cardiff.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> Hi Fabian,
> Well stated.
> What a great way to convey the size and diversity of collections. No doubt
> some risk is possible but, as you and others have well argued, it can be
> managed to a very low level. We can?t let imaginable possibilities prevent
> us from demonstrating collections in effective ways to the public (who
> usually, actually owns them.)
> Jane Henderson and I have recently argued for not considering risks to
> collections independent from benefits of use. Abstract attached and video
> of presentation available on request.
> Rob
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Fabian
> Neisskenwirth
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 6:14 AM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
>
> Hey there,
>
>
>
> i think that drone videos are in fact a very nice possibility for
> non-museum people to have a better look in a museums function. Specially in
> collection that are not accessible for everyone. Here is a very nice
> example done by the Montanhistorisches Dokumentationszentrum (montan.dok)
> at the Deutsches Bergbau-Museum in Bochum, its not natural history
> collections, but you will get the idea:
>
>
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dvw2LDI186H8&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=yI0DSmp5dcA-akPy4uNBLvylac0OJnztMXcpZKYSa8Q&e=
> (the music is horrible, but that's just a taste thing)
>
>
>
> I think that if there is professional piloting done in companionship of
> the local conservation team, the result can be very good for giving a nice
> insight in the collections.
>
>
>
> I can understand that sometimes it seems like new medias can be
> challenging and seem to get just a sensational effect. But at the same time
> we have to get the fact that it is 2022 and this kind of promotion attracts
> (specially younger) people to get involved with collection work and learn
> in some different way what museums do and why they are here for.
>
>
>
> So from my point of view videos like this can be very helpful for
> promotional use.
>
>
>
> Off course a good plan of what and how it is going to be shoot is very
> important for the safety of the collection.
>
>
>
>
>
> All best and nice holidays to everyone,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 15.04.22 um 00:54 schrieb Christy Bills:
> I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum
> (Natural History Museum of Utah).
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
>
> At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with
> collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
> We in collections and research were concerned that members of the public
> would see the cool video and then think that they could visit the museum
> and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting specimens at risk.
> Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised
> interdepartmental relationships).
>
> -Christy Bills
> (she/her)
> Invertebrates Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Battermann, Nora <
> battermann at snsb.de><mailto:battermann at snsb.de>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
>
> Cheers,
> Nora
>
> ---
> Dr. Nora Battermann
> Koordination Sammlungsassessment
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>
> Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny Dreyer
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > Research Manager
> >
> > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> >
> > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu<mailto:jcdrey at vims.edu>
> > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> >
> >
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> > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > William Simpson
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> >
> > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> > video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> > William F. Simpson (he)
> > Head of Geological Collections
> > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > Gantz Family Collections Center
> >
> > Field Museum of Natural History
> > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > (312) 665-7628
> > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> >
> > [2]
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
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> > [1]
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:25:31 -0700
> From: Dean Pentcheff <pentcheff at gmail.com>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on waterproof/washable keyboards for
> lab work
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> An alternative approach is to consider keyboards as cheap expendables.
> We've taken that approach for a wet collection digitization project we've
> been working on at volume in the past few months.
>
> Recommended (no failures yet, despite sometimes wet hands): Logitech K380
> (US$29.99 each).
> Less recommended, but not horrible (a couple of failures): Arteck
> Ultra-Slim Bluetooth (US$17.99 each).
>
> -Dean
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> Dean Pentcheff
> pentcheff at gmail.com
> pentcheff at nhm.org <dpentche at nhm.org>
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>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 9:44 AM Fisher, Ryan PCS <ryan.fisher at gov.sk.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > We are considering shifting some of our pencil and paper data collection
> > while doing vertebrate specimen preparation to a digital format. We are
> > anticipating having laptops available (the laptops would be out of the
> way
> > of the specimen preparation, so don?t necessarily need to be
> > waterproof/washeable), but we are needing an external Bluetooth/wifi
> > keyboard/mouse-trackpad that we can use to actually physically enter
> data.
> > Of course, the data entry will be done while the specimen is being
> prepared
> > so we need something that is washable and waterproof and can generally
> > stand up to all of the fluids and fur/feathers that get on gloves and the
> > preparation area. Just wondering if anyone has any advice on brands or
> > options for this (or what you?ve tried and you recommend avoiding!).
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> > *Ryan Fisher, **Ph.D. (he/him)*
> >
> >
> >
> > Curator of Vertebrate Zoology
> >
> > Royal Saskatchewan Museum
> >
> > 2340 Albert St., Regina, SK S4P 2V7
> >
> > (306) 519-5554
> >
> > Adjunct Professor University of Regina
> >
> >
> >
> > Website: Ryan Fisher ? Royal Saskatchewan Museum (royalsaskmuseum.ca)
> > <
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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 19:24:41 +0000
> From: Lauren Cohen <lcohen3 at fsu.edu>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Free, Online Course: Introduction to
> Photogrammetry, May 6th from 3-5 ET
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> We are excited to introduce the next professional development opportunity
> from iDigBio's Digitization Academy: a short, free, online course on
> photogrammetry. Photogrammetry is a method that can produce 3D models of
> organisms and their habitat for innovative use in research, education,
> science communication, and other activities. This course introduces
> biodiversity specimen collectors, curators, and other biodiversity
> researchers to photogrammetry with special, though not exclusive, emphasis
> on the documentation of specimens at the time of collection. We will
> introduce photogrammetry as a method of 3D modeling, the uses of
> photogrammetry, image capture for photogrammetry (especially in the field),
> an example software workflow that has been optimized for plant specimens
> (but is applicable to other types), sharing and archiving options, and
> additional high-value resources. The course is open to everyone from the
> biodiversity research and adjacent communities from around the world.
> The course will occur on Friday, May 6, from 3?5 ET, and it will be led
> by Nicole James (Florida State University?s Department of Art), Alex
> Adkinson (FSU?s Department of Art), and Austin Mast (FSU?s Department of
> Biological Science and College of Communication and Information). The
> course will be presented in English. Questions can be directed to Lauren
> Cohen (lcohen3 at fsu.edu<mailto:lcohen3 at fsu.edu>; iDigBio?s Workforce
> Development Manager) and Austin Mast (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu>;
> Director of iDigBio?s Digitization, Workforce Development, and Citizen
> Science Domain).
>
> To view the full course description, please visit:
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> https://www.idigbio.org/content/introduction-photogrammetry-biodiversity-specimen-collectors-and-curators
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> To register, please do so by this link:
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> Warm Regards,
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> Lauren Cohen
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:13:39 +0000
> From: Austin Mast <amast at fsu.edu>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Cc: Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
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> Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen
> science, community science, or other forms of research collaborations with
> the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May
> 23-26th. Registration is now open at
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
>
> This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes
> cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The
> platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals doing
> this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers,
> agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help you
> focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
>
> With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single,
> easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into a
> wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
>
> Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer
> Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org<mailto:jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> or events at citizenscience.org<mailto:events at citizenscience.org>.
> Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:
> amast at fsu.edu>).
>
> Thanks for considering!
>
> Austin
>
> Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium
> Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ?
> (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information & Scientific
> Communication ? College of Communication and Information ? Florida State
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 22:38:23 +0000
> From: Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Valuation of stolen specimens
> Message-ID: <c9e4c23878084e95b9e5a36e65e355af at wnmbs03.pugetsound.edu>
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> Hello everyone,
> I have a question about insurance valuations (a recent NHCOLL discussion
> topic) that suddenly got real for us. We loaned a few specimens to a
> travelling Art/Science exhibit including a small pangolin. The museum was
> burglarized in the middle of the night (glass windows and cases smashed)
> and multiple artworks and specimens were taken including a pangolin, a
> beaver and beaver skull and a fossil. I need to place a value on the
> pangolin, which is irreplaceable. What are practices surrounding placing
> value on specific specimens (as opposed to entire collections) that are for
> all intents and purposes, irreplaceable?
>
> Are there murky places on the web where specimens are bought and sold
> where we could post the missing pangolin?
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
> Peter Wimberger (he suite)
> Director, Slater Museum of Natural History
> Professor, Biology
> University of Puget Sound
> Tacoma, WA 98406
>
> ?living and working on the Homelands of the Puyallup Nation
>
>
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Austin
> Mast
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 1:14 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Cc: Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
>
>
> Caution: This email originated from outside the University of Puget Sound.
> Please exercise caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or
> responding to this email.
> Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen
> science, community science, or other forms of research collaborations with
> the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May
> 23-26th. Registration is now open at
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
>
> This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes
> cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The
> platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals doing
> this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers,
> agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help you
> focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
>
> With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single,
> easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into a
> wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
>
> Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer
> Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org<mailto:jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> or events at citizenscience.org<mailto:events at citizenscience.org>.
> Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:
> amast at fsu.edu>).
>
> Thanks for considering!
>
> Austin
>
> Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium
> Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ?
> (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information & Scientific
> Communication ? College of Communication and Information ? Florida State
> University ? amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu> ? he/him
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 22:46:46 -0700
> From: Kairo Z <hezhu1 at gmail.com>
> To: Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
> Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Valuation of stolen specimens
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> I'm involved in the private collections sector.
>
> Do you have photos of the specimens stolen? I can put it out to the network
> of private collector and specimen markets out there and someone will report
> it if it shows up for sale.
>
> Same with the fossils.
>
> Photos of any identifying marks will help greatly.
>
> It would probably be passed off as a vintage specimen if it comes up for
> sale, to get around questions about lack of paperwork.
>
> The specimen collections community is large but very well connected. So if
> it spread widely enough, the minute it comes up for sale somebody would see
> it.
>
> I don't have any current input for valuation. However pangolin specimens do
> exist in the hands of private collectors and transactions do occur. I'll
> reach out.
>
>
> K
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 4:08 PM Peter H Wimberger <
> phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have a question about insurance valuations (a recent NHCOLL discussion
> > topic) that suddenly got real for us. We loaned a few specimens to a
> > travelling Art/Science exhibit including a small pangolin. The museum
> was
> > burglarized in the middle of the night (glass windows and cases smashed)
> > and multiple artworks and specimens were taken including a pangolin, a
> > beaver and beaver skull and a fossil. I need to place a value on the
> > pangolin, which is irreplaceable. What are practices surrounding placing
> > value on specific specimens (as opposed to entire collections) that are
> for
> > all intents and purposes, irreplaceable?
> >
> >
> >
> > Are there murky places on the web where specimens are bought and sold
> > where we could post the missing pangolin?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > *Peter Wimberger (he suite)*
> >
> > Director, Slater Museum of Natural History
> >
> > Professor, Biology
> >
> > University of Puget Sound
> >
> > Tacoma, WA 98406
> >
> >
> >
> > ?living and working on the Homelands of the Puyallup Nation
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of
> *Austin
> > Mast
> > *Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2022 1:14 PM
> > *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > *Cc:* Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> > *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
> >
> >
> >
> > *Caution:* This email originated from outside the University of Puget
> > Sound. Please exercise caution when opening attachments, clicking links,
> or
> > responding to this email.
> >
> > Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen
> > science, community science, or other forms of research collaborations
> with
> > the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May
> > 23-26th. Registration is now open at
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
> >
> >
> > This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes
> > cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The
> > platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals
> doing
> > this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers,
> > agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help
> you
> > focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
> >
> > With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single,
> > easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into
> a
> > wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
> >
> > Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer
> > Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org or events at citizenscience.org.
> > Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu).
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for considering!
> >
> >
> >
> > Austin
> >
> >
> >
> > *Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium
> > Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ?
> > (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information &
> Scientific
> > Communication ? College of Communication and Information ? Florida State
> > University ? amast at fsu.edu <amast at fsu.edu> ? he/him*
> >
> >
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> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> > Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> > mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> > natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> > society. See
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.spnhc.org&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=ZXCrPutHJtiXYNdet9pY1-4L-EBidne7TYIdOMxZ78E&e=
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:17:44 +0000
> From: Andrew Haycock <Andrew.Haycock at museumwales.ac.uk>
> To: " (nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu)" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: Marine Reptile Conference!! Registration
> deadline 29th April
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> For interest,
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Kind regards
> Andrew
>
> From: The Geological Curators Group mailing list <
> GEO-CURATORS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Emma Nicholls
> Sent: 13 April 2022 10:18
> To: GEO-CURATORS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Marine Reptile Conference!! Registration deadline 29th April
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> We are delighted to announce a half day 'mini' Marine Reptile Conference,
> in conjunction with the Geological Curators Group, that will take place
> online on 4th May 2022.
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> The conference will comprise posters, oral presentations, and a live Q&A!
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> For more information and to book your place, please follow this link:
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> Registration closes 29th April 2022, but is first come first served.
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> Please forward this email or the attached flier to anyone you think may be
> interested. Many thanks!
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> With best wishes,
>
>
>
> Emma
>
> Marine Reptile Conference Committee
>
> Geological Curators Group Vice Chair and Blog Editor
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