[Nhcoll-l] [ECN-L] USFWS 3-177 - deregulation?

Tue May 27 08:00:00 EDT 2025

Hi, all!  I think we need to be careful here.  Although I would love to
make the 3-177 process more efficient, I think that is different from
promoting deregulation of wildlife imports.  The 3-177 gives US Fish and
Wildlife Service "teeth" when going after bad actors, and the unintended
consequences of deregulation could be catastrophic to imperiled taxa,
especially if there is perceived support from the scientific community.

Take care,
Cody

Cody W. Thompson, PhD
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On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 6:35 PM Frank T. Krell <Frank.Krell at dmns.org> wrote:

> Non-CITES dead invertebrates (or specimens if you want to have it broader)
> for non-commercial research
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> Not sure if it matters whether we get the legal stuff right. The
> deregulators will have to try to get it right. With this government, I am
> not sure that anybody can predict what is “right”. We just should make sure
> that we avoid bad unintended consequences, but I think with the above
> wording, most of those would be avoided.
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> *From:* Mike Ferro <spongymesophyll at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2025 2:00 PM
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> Mike Ivie talked about National Park Specimens and I outlined a game plan
> last year. I suspect no one followed up on it. I would but I’m engaged in
> several other projects no one is interested in and didn’t have time. (I did
> email some people but never heard back).
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> If we actually knew what we were talking about, it would help. Again, I
> would suggest that we all agree, we are scientists, not lawyers. We need to
> consult a professional and not pretend we know what we are talking about.
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> Concerning USFWS 3-177, we need to proceed cautiously. Our view is dead
> invertebrates. What about tigers?
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> If we suggested anything, it would probably be best to state NON-CITES
> INVERTEBRATES often.
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> See how I'm pretending that I know something?
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> We need to consult a professional!
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> Cheers,
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> Mike
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> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 3:54 PM Dewalt, R Edward <dewalt at illinois.edu>
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> Could some of you put together some talking points? We can then submit
> something informative as a group and maybe be more effective.
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> R. Edward DeWalt
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> University of Illinois
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> Illinois Natural History Survey
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> Yes, if we can get anything useful out of this government, then some
> deregulatory measures would be the most likely. It would be great if many
> of us could submit a 3-177 deregulation idea – if you agree that it should
> be deregulated or improved for scientific, non-commercial specimens.
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> Cheers
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> Frank
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> *From:* 'Derek Sikes' via ECN-L <ECN-L at ecnweb.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2025 1:37 PM
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> All,
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> Just noticed this: https://www.regulations.gov/
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> "Submit Your Deregulatory Recommendations
> Impacted by an existing rule or regulation? Share your ideas for
> deregulation by completing this form."
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> Perhaps now is the time to remove or at least improve the USFWS 3-177
> process.
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> -Derek
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