[Tshwanelex-l] Digraph and trigraph sorting etc.

Andrew Clark a.a.clark at steading.org.uk
Fri Aug 3 06:38:26 EDT 2012

Hi David,

When is an OS X build likely to be available?


On 3 Aug 2012, at 03:41, David Joffe wrote:

> Oh yes, one quick 'caveat' - if you set up digraph sorting in the
> new version, save the file, then load the file in a pre-.653 version
> - the file should load, but the digraph sorting won't work properly
> anymore. (Hopefully that should be relatively obvious.)
> On 3 Aug 2012 at 3:45, David Joffe wrote:
> From:	"David Joffe" <david.joffe at tshwanedje.com>
> To:	tshwanelex-l at mailman.yale.edu,
>       	Menan Du Plessis <menan.du.plessis at gmail.com>
> Date sent:	Fri, 03 Aug 2012 03:45:40 +0200
> Priority:	normal
> Subject:	[Tshwanelex-l] Digraph and trigraph sorting etc.
>> Hi all,
>> A test version of the (long-awaited) digraph (and trigraph etc.)
>> supporting version of the table-based configurable sorting in TLex
>> is now available:
>> http://tshwanedje.com/builds/653/
>> It would be great if it could get a little more testing before being
>> rolled into the 'formal' build, so anyone waiting for this
>> functionality, please give it a go. A small sample is also attached.
>> Basically the old user interface for configuring the sorting has
>> changed in only one way (which you can't miss): Whereas before, all
>> variant forms where on one line, e.g.:
>> a -> variant-forms: Aa
>> now, the variant forms are separated by line breaks, e.g.:
>> a -> variant-forms:
>> A
>> a
>> so this allows a digraph to be entered as, for example:
>> ch -> variant-forms:
>> ch
>> CH
>> Ch
>> cH
>> If it's not reasonably clear let me know?
>> Note this same system should be able to work out the box (well, with
>> some configuration of course per dictionary etc.) not only for
>> digraphs (or trigraphs), but also other cases where one alphabetic
>> 'letter' may be represented by a string of 2 or more Unicode
>> characters as a variant form - so e.g. that would include combining
>> diacritic forms, and also non-canonical variants (that basically
>> gmholton at alaska.edurefers to when there is more than one way in
>> Unicode to represent the same character, e.g. e with accent can be
>> represented, for example, either as the single precombined form:
>> U+00e9
>> or, slightly more unusually, as e.g. a plain latin 'e' with
>> combining accent:
>> U+0065 + U+0301
>> (However, for most users compiling dictionaries, implementing that
>> level within the sorting is not generally necessary, and can anyway
>> be worked around in such a controlled environment. But anyway, it
>> might be of theoretical or even practical interest to some.)
>> - David
>> On 17 Jul 2012 at 8:19, Menan Du Plessis wrote:
>> Date sent:	Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:19:00 +0200
>> From:	Menan Du Plessis <menan.du.plessis at gmail.com>
>> To:	tshwanelex-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> Subject:	[Tshwanelex-l] sending sample to a 3rd party; configuring  
>> sorting
>>> Hi everyone.
>>> I need to send a sample soon to the people who run the electronic
>>> archive (ELAR, at SOAS) where our material will be deposited. (Am
>>> working on an extremely endangered language, with essentially one  
>>> last
>>> speaker, who is 100 years old.) So my first urgent question is:
>>> Q: How do I organize my sound files plus the dictionary so that my
>>> recipient will be able to click on the icon and hear the recorded
>>> examples I have linked to my entries? Is there a way to put them  
>>> both
>>> into one folder, and then specify the directory in a neutral way,  
>>> i.e.
>>> that doesn't include a drive on my own computer as part of the  
>>> address?
>>> And my second urgent question is:
>>> Q: How do I configure the sorting where digraphs, trigraphs (and
>>> polygraphs) need to be accommodated on the first pass?
>>> I know that David will soon be getting to me with advice on the  
>>> second
>>> question - and I do understand that everyone has been super busy  
>>> getting
>>> the 2012 version ready for release ... () - but in the mean time, it
>>> occurs to me that this must be a pretty common need, so I'd like  
>>> to put
>>> it out there, in case anyone else has already worked out how to do  
>>> this?
>>> I am starting to fret very slightly!
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Menan
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