[yul-naco] YUL NACO list question

[Meier, Tachtorn]

Dear Colleagues,

I apologize for sending an email prematurely.

Please feel free to share your thoughts on this NACO question.

“The question has arisen of whether/when in the 372 it is appropriate to use a term qualified by nationality.  For example, if one is creating a NAR for a poet living in Germany and writing in German, could the 372 be “German poetry” (an established LCSH), or should it simply be “Poetry”?  My feeling is that it should just be “Poetry,” unless the individual very explicitly writes poetry about ONLY Germany and German issues.  (Of course, for an NAR for a scholar studying/writing about German poetry, a 372 “German poetry” would be totally appropriate.)  I cannot find any 372 documentation that addresses this specific situation, but the documentation for the 374 clearly says not to qualify by nationality (among other things), which might serve as a model.  And as a real-world example, the NAR for Walt Whitman 1819-1892, which has been updated multiple times by LC and is currently RDA-compliant, simply has a 372 for “Poetry.”

Best,
Wheat



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Hi Tom,

Definitely!

I did a quick search in the OCLC, and I found records with the terms qualified by nationality, such as German poetry, children's poetry, German poetry, Spanish poetry, etc. in the 372. For me, German poetry could be interpreted as a poem written in German or a poem written by the Germans or German people. But then, there is "Argentine poetry." Argentine isn’t a language but rather a nationality. As a non-native English speaker, I often get confused about the usage.

Would you like to post this on YUL-NACO<mailto:Distribution%20list%20for%20YUL%20NACO%20catalogers%20%3cyul-naco at mailman.yale.edu%3e> list or would you like to post this on your behalf. I can make it anonymous if you prefer.

Best,
Wheat

From: Bolze, Thomas <thomas.bolze at yale.edu<mailto:thomas.bolze at yale.edu>>
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2023 1:42 PM
To: Meier, Tachtorn <tachtorn.meier at yale.edu<mailto:tachtorn.meier at yale.edu>>
Subject: YUL NACO list question

Wheat,

In addition to that issue we discussed re. the LC-created NAR that Chuck needs to update, which is still in process, I hit another situation that Jeanette suggested might be appropriate for the NACO list.

The question has arisen of whether/when in the 372 it is appropriate to use a term qualified by nationality.  For example, if one is creating a NAR for a poet living in Germany and writing in German, could the 372 be “German poetry” (an established LCSH), or should it simply be “Poetry”?  My feeling is that it should just be “Poetry,” unless the individual very explicitly writes poetry about ONLY Germany and German issues.  (Of course, for an NAR for a scholar studying/writing about German poetry, a 372 “German poetry” would be totally appropriate.)  I cannot find any 372 documentation that addresses this specific situation, but the documentation for the 374 clearly says not to qualify by nationality (among other things), which might serve as a model.  And as a real-world example, the NAR for Walt Whitman 1819-1892, which has been updated multiple times by LC and is currently RDA-compliant, simply has a 372 for “Poetry.”

But, is this something that might benefit from NACO list discussion?

Tom
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