[Nhcoll-l] Tie on tags

Mon Mar 30 03:09:00 EDT 2015

Hi all,

DYMO tags should be used with larger specimens only; the rigid plastic 
and the plastic string physically damage smaller specimens (sitting in 
smaller containers). It might be an option to use & punch the Tyvek 
"paper" Andy Bentley repeatedly recommended, in combination with a high 
quality ribbon (maybe it is worth to avoid plastic here, which might 
detach at some point or might fail because of the ageing of the 
plastic). Also, Tyvek is not that rigid compared to DYMO, and (maybe 
most important) does not release any adhesives. We had a large shark and 
stingray collected tagged with DYMO tags in the early 1970ies, and most 
tags are hardly readable (even though the imprinting is still "there", 
you can hardly recognise it because of ageing and secondary reactions 
[sharks have been sitting in old benzine barrels for some time with 
residual benzine in it, released oils also had negative effects on the 
tags, some tags were torn off, etc.)

In Echinoderms it should work to knot the ribbon around one of the 
radial limbs (at least in star fish) rather than punching them; in major 
fish sitting in larger tanks tags could be applied below the gill cover 
or anchored inside the mouth or the between the gills. This might be the 
safe option compared to (comparatively small) specimen labels that can 
easily tear off specimens.

Maybe this points into the right direction ....

All the best
Dirk

Am 28.03.2015 um 02:45 schrieb Andrew Stewart:
>
> Hi Cathy,
>
> Some years ago we experimented with paper tags with a brass eyelet and 
> found the metal corroded quite badly so gave that away. For the past 
> 30+ years we have been using plastic dymo strips (9 mm wide); either 
> black or green.  Do */_NOT_/* use blue as the dye is alcohol soluble 
> and becomes very difficult to read. The biggest issue we’re facing now 
> is that it’s getting harder to buy the tape.
>
> Attachment is either by plastic tags in a denison gun or using waxed 
> linen thread and a needle. No disassociation issues except where the 
> plastic tag hasn’t been securely punched through the specimen, but we 
> always give it a wee pull before finishing with the specimen.
>
> Good luck
>
> Andrew
>
> >><<<)o>
>
> Collection Manager: Vertebrates.
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> Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongerewa
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> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Cathy Groves
> *Sent:* Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:37 p.m.
> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Tie on tags
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> We are looking for tie-on tags, which can be used to label bags of 
> specimens that are submerged in alcohol in 30-gallon steel tanks.
>
> For similar purposes, our ichthyology department uses 100% rag card 
> stock tags, 1.5 x 2.75 inches, with a reinforced brass eyelet. 
> Unfortunately, their supply is nearly exhausted and the source of the 
> tags is unknown.
>
> Can anyone suggest a supplier for tie-on tags that withstand long-term 
> storage in 85% ethanol?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Cathy
>
> Cathy Groves
>
> Collection Manager, Echinoderms
>
> Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County
>
> 900 Exposition Blvd.
>
> Los Angeles, CA 90007
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> Phone: 213-763-3527
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> Email: cgroves at nhm.org <mailto:cgroves at nhm.org>
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